I’d like to know about the greens but all I can find is their manifesto from the last election which is almost wholly devoid of detail, and just says “we’ll spend more on everything to fix it”.
Anyone have a linked to any detailed policies?
BenButton123 on
Why does this sub have near weekly posts about UK opinion polls but not for other countries? Genuinely curious, especially as their election isn’t for another 4 years?
ModenaR on
If that doesn’t scream desperation, idk what does
dat_9600gt_user on
LDEM are the only okay option at this point.
Several-Support2201 on
Not thrilled to see this as a British citizen – while I’d love to see a greater focus on climate change, the green party are openly pursuing populist policies and are opposed to investing in nuclear power, oppose any development whether for housing or transport. It feels like voting to remain static, which is absurd.
Known_Week_158 on
The Green party is only doing that in outlier polls.
There need to be a lot more of them before it actually shows them getting to or beating Labour’s level.
niteninja1 on
why are they showing eu parties?
Unlucky_Civilian on
That’d be great if they were actual greens not russian assets blocking renewable energy advancement
OffOption on
This feels like whats to be expected, after their labor party decided to sprint to the right like they have.
You can agree with their politics all youd like… but labor, the conservatives, and reform, all batteling for the exact same voters… for whatever reason… results in anything left of the center right, start to feel left behind.
And looking at the tories… and deciding “ah yes… what a model to follow!”… you should not be allowed to drive, with how high on your own farts you are.
HanzoKurosawa on
This graph highlights very well why first past the post is so flawed and we so need electoral reform. The three “left wing” parties share 48% of the vote, whilst the two main “right wing” parties share 44%. But because reform has the single biggest voter share, they’re most likely to win. This has happened so many times in recent UK elections where the country overall votes left wing, but because the votes are split between multiple parties, a right wing party wins. It’s so stupid and so easily fixed by a ranked choice voting system.
wilf89 on
The green spam has started in this sub now has it
smh_username_taken on
Perfect, so greens will take labour votes, lib dem will take tory votes, and FPTP will give reform a majority in 2029. Labour needs to sort things out ASAP, I can’t believe it took 1.5 years to introduce rent reform and planning reform has been 1 month away the whole time too. greens also also against investing in green infrastructure, the name should really be reds with their NATO policies.
Spoondockspaints on
Climate change is their main thing and they oppose nuclear. They are not a serious party.
The_Bliss_Dog on
The UK is cooked. Over 50% of voters are saying they want a left/centre-left government, yet this poll gives us a hard-right gov with a working majority. Just not at all representative. We’re going to be using SV to elect our mayors and PCCs soon, so why not the actual government? Absolutely baffling policy.
MakoSmiler on
They will never hold sway in the UK.
neverend1ngcircles on
It is because the new leader of the Greens (Zack Polanski), to his credit, is a good orator, doesn’t get easily flustered and isn’t sanctimonious.
It is a shame that he doesn’t actually have anything particularly interesting to say or good policies, otherwise I would consider voting for him.
Heuchelei on
Labour-Lib Dems under PM Andy Burnham in 2029 is my prediction
Strong_Temporary5166 on
Are they anything like they are in my country (🇦🇺), that is, a hopeless token for predominately rich people to feel good about themselves at the ballot box?
didierdechezcarglass on
Weird timeline
AggressiveDot2801 on
Crazy thing is due to Britain’s ‘first past the post system,’ this could arguably lead to a ‘Reform’ government with barely a quarter of the popular vote.
-The_Blazer- on
The UK left the EU, but little did they know their electoral landscape was soon to become germanized…
tordenoglynild666 on
Well it’s a better “protest vote” than Reform for sure.
Expensive-Key-9122 on
Yeah, but the increase in membership is coming primarily from their already secure, student/young left-winger base, who’s votes count for little under our electoral system (FPTP). They seem to be abandoning all political strategy for left-wing eco-populism, something which will be hard to stomach for their MPs precariously sitting on conservative strongholds.
All in all, the membership numbers could triple and I still wouldn’t think that would translate to any electorcal gains.
Thurad on
Labour’s strategy going in to the last election was a giant own goal. They were more concerned with having people vote for them instead of the Tories and drove away a lot of their traditional support, including telling them to leave the party. This meant that Labour won the last election because no one wanted the Tories to win but they’ve not got people liking the party due to it having policies and principles that they agree with.
This results in all the minor parties attracting more support as they actually stand for something. Zack Polanski is killing it social media wise at the moment and attracting a lot of support by saying what people want to hear.
DataLumpy7419 on
It doesn’t matter while Reform is growing to 27% 🥴. Europe should understand that these so-called “conservative” far-right parties will keep gaining popularity, especially under the current US leadership. The future doesn’t look bright – and don’t forget the 19th-century quote, “When France sneezes, all of Europe catches a cold”, because they’ll be the first to sneeze among the major countries.
Unless you let these pricks govern and fail, you’ll only make society boil even more.
Visual_Title9363 on
Why isn’t the Lib Dems performing better?
BoglisMobileAcc on
Farage having this much support how much he lied about brexit is grim
YorkieLon on
Wait until they find out the policies of the Green party, and some of the fundamental right wing people they have representing them.
fianthewolf on
The UK has two options:
A. Brussels coalition of Labor, Tories and Liberal Democrats.
B. Reform-Tory coalition.
SnooBooks1701 on
Having five parties over 10%, then four of them within the margin of error of each other is completely unheard of.
The Greens are notorious for their polling mirages, they seem to always rise over 10% during off years, but then their supporters switch to whoever can beat the Tories locally. The UK left wing are extremely good at tactical voting ruthlessly
bowsmountainer on
A house of commons split between Reform and Greens will be quite something.
Gold_On_My_X on
Polling doesn’t mean very much. Polls said that the Caerphilly by-election was going to be a convincing win for Reform. But it was in fact a very convincing win for Plaid Cymru instead.
Polls aren’t accounting for everything. Like the rise of popularity for Plaid Cymru for instance.
Common_Source_9 on
The Greens still militate for closing the nuclear submarine and deterrence arms?
CrappyTan69 on
No. The others are sinking to new lows.
In the absence of anything good, you choose the least shit
mcyeom on
I like the choice of dark grey over light blue for refuk, better fits the classic colour scheme for their ideology
DefInnit on
Ideas for proportional representation aside, a suggested change to the UK’s first-past-the-post system: require absolute majority (50% +1) for an outright win; if there isn’t, hold run-off elections of the Top 2.
It would give a clear mandate to the winner, incentivizes voters to vote for their actual preferred party in the 1st round instead of voting “strategically” right away, and allows voter coalitions the chance to block extremists from gaining power.
idgaf_aboutyou on
I’m sorry, but it’s not good that neither the far right nor the Greens are mainstream parties.
40 commenti
Wait until people read their policies…
Just a remainder that the Green Party in the UK wants to leave NATO and give up our nuclear weapons..
It would be interesting if there is no clear majority after the 2029 election.
Most parties are probably not willing to join a coalition government after what happened to the Lib-dems.
[Conservative–Liberal Democrat coalition agreement](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative%E2%80%93Liberal_Democrat_coalition_agreement)
I’d like to know about the greens but all I can find is their manifesto from the last election which is almost wholly devoid of detail, and just says “we’ll spend more on everything to fix it”.
Anyone have a linked to any detailed policies?
Why does this sub have near weekly posts about UK opinion polls but not for other countries? Genuinely curious, especially as their election isn’t for another 4 years?
If that doesn’t scream desperation, idk what does
LDEM are the only okay option at this point.
Not thrilled to see this as a British citizen – while I’d love to see a greater focus on climate change, the green party are openly pursuing populist policies and are opposed to investing in nuclear power, oppose any development whether for housing or transport. It feels like voting to remain static, which is absurd.
The Green party is only doing that in outlier polls.
There need to be a lot more of them before it actually shows them getting to or beating Labour’s level.
why are they showing eu parties?
That’d be great if they were actual greens not russian assets blocking renewable energy advancement
This feels like whats to be expected, after their labor party decided to sprint to the right like they have.
You can agree with their politics all youd like… but labor, the conservatives, and reform, all batteling for the exact same voters… for whatever reason… results in anything left of the center right, start to feel left behind.
And looking at the tories… and deciding “ah yes… what a model to follow!”… you should not be allowed to drive, with how high on your own farts you are.
This graph highlights very well why first past the post is so flawed and we so need electoral reform. The three “left wing” parties share 48% of the vote, whilst the two main “right wing” parties share 44%. But because reform has the single biggest voter share, they’re most likely to win. This has happened so many times in recent UK elections where the country overall votes left wing, but because the votes are split between multiple parties, a right wing party wins. It’s so stupid and so easily fixed by a ranked choice voting system.
The green spam has started in this sub now has it
Perfect, so greens will take labour votes, lib dem will take tory votes, and FPTP will give reform a majority in 2029. Labour needs to sort things out ASAP, I can’t believe it took 1.5 years to introduce rent reform and planning reform has been 1 month away the whole time too. greens also also against investing in green infrastructure, the name should really be reds with their NATO policies.
Climate change is their main thing and they oppose nuclear. They are not a serious party.
The UK is cooked. Over 50% of voters are saying they want a left/centre-left government, yet this poll gives us a hard-right gov with a working majority. Just not at all representative. We’re going to be using SV to elect our mayors and PCCs soon, so why not the actual government? Absolutely baffling policy.
They will never hold sway in the UK.
It is because the new leader of the Greens (Zack Polanski), to his credit, is a good orator, doesn’t get easily flustered and isn’t sanctimonious.
It is a shame that he doesn’t actually have anything particularly interesting to say or good policies, otherwise I would consider voting for him.
Labour-Lib Dems under PM Andy Burnham in 2029 is my prediction
Are they anything like they are in my country (🇦🇺), that is, a hopeless token for predominately rich people to feel good about themselves at the ballot box?
Weird timeline
Crazy thing is due to Britain’s ‘first past the post system,’ this could arguably lead to a ‘Reform’ government with barely a quarter of the popular vote.
The UK left the EU, but little did they know their electoral landscape was soon to become germanized…
Well it’s a better “protest vote” than Reform for sure.
Yeah, but the increase in membership is coming primarily from their already secure, student/young left-winger base, who’s votes count for little under our electoral system (FPTP). They seem to be abandoning all political strategy for left-wing eco-populism, something which will be hard to stomach for their MPs precariously sitting on conservative strongholds.
All in all, the membership numbers could triple and I still wouldn’t think that would translate to any electorcal gains.
Labour’s strategy going in to the last election was a giant own goal. They were more concerned with having people vote for them instead of the Tories and drove away a lot of their traditional support, including telling them to leave the party. This meant that Labour won the last election because no one wanted the Tories to win but they’ve not got people liking the party due to it having policies and principles that they agree with.
This results in all the minor parties attracting more support as they actually stand for something. Zack Polanski is killing it social media wise at the moment and attracting a lot of support by saying what people want to hear.
It doesn’t matter while Reform is growing to 27% 🥴. Europe should understand that these so-called “conservative” far-right parties will keep gaining popularity, especially under the current US leadership. The future doesn’t look bright – and don’t forget the 19th-century quote, “When France sneezes, all of Europe catches a cold”, because they’ll be the first to sneeze among the major countries.
Unless you let these pricks govern and fail, you’ll only make society boil even more.
Why isn’t the Lib Dems performing better?
Farage having this much support how much he lied about brexit is grim
Wait until they find out the policies of the Green party, and some of the fundamental right wing people they have representing them.
The UK has two options:
A. Brussels coalition of Labor, Tories and Liberal Democrats.
B. Reform-Tory coalition.
Having five parties over 10%, then four of them within the margin of error of each other is completely unheard of.
The Greens are notorious for their polling mirages, they seem to always rise over 10% during off years, but then their supporters switch to whoever can beat the Tories locally. The UK left wing are extremely good at tactical voting ruthlessly
A house of commons split between Reform and Greens will be quite something.
Polling doesn’t mean very much. Polls said that the Caerphilly by-election was going to be a convincing win for Reform. But it was in fact a very convincing win for Plaid Cymru instead.
Polls aren’t accounting for everything. Like the rise of popularity for Plaid Cymru for instance.
The Greens still militate for closing the nuclear submarine and deterrence arms?
No. The others are sinking to new lows.
In the absence of anything good, you choose the least shit
I like the choice of dark grey over light blue for refuk, better fits the classic colour scheme for their ideology
Ideas for proportional representation aside, a suggested change to the UK’s first-past-the-post system: require absolute majority (50% +1) for an outright win; if there isn’t, hold run-off elections of the Top 2.
It would give a clear mandate to the winner, incentivizes voters to vote for their actual preferred party in the 1st round instead of voting “strategically” right away, and allows voter coalitions the chance to block extremists from gaining power.
I’m sorry, but it’s not good that neither the far right nor the Greens are mainstream parties.