How about the Danish stop obsessively pushing for this shit?
ianfhunter on
In what way is this half good? A bad thing that is 50% smaller is still all bad. This is still not a reasonable compromise
TrueRignak on
“Last proposition was three times worse than any chinese, russian or usain legislation about spying on nationals, but rejoice, the new one is only half as bad.”
Shoddy-Childhood-511 on
“Half-good” is being too generous. Actually even the Parliament’s proposal with warants would be abused. It’d be used against whistleblowers, against Ukrainian assets in Russia, etc.
After you have a warant to spy on a device, then you should execute the warant by (a) secretly gain physical and install mallware, (b) install mallware via phising or network level hack, or (c) pay an officer to use laser evesdropping.
As (c) always works, there are no valid law enforcement reasons to have a backdoor, just costs reasons, but the costs are precisely what prevent mass surveillance, and also what prevents hostile nations like Russia, China, US, etc from exploiting your system against you.
Danes… If you can’t handle the Euro, you can’t handle serious matters.
Mumbert on
Here’s their end game:
“I can watch you poop, right?”
“What? No.”
“You’ll let me watch you poop?”
“NO.”
“Do you agree to letting me watch when you’re pooping?”
“No. No. Fuck off.”
“Wait, here is an agreement, please sign it to let me watch you poop.”
“No.”
“Person who is fine with letting me watching them poop says what”
“Wha.. GET LOST, STOP IT!”
“Will you let me *hear* you poop?”
“Jesus f-ing christ alright, what the hell, at least that’s not as bad.”
minecraftbroth on
Hey, europeans! Spamcall your MP’s already! I don’t need this shit getting normalized and exported to my country.
TSSalamander on
the communication between individuals should be allowed to be secret at will of either corrosponder and only revealed through clear court order under publicly ascended legal mandate.
Methoddogg on
On behalf of the Danish people:
WE DONT WANT THIS. Peter Hummelgaard IS DOING THIS DESPITE NO SUPPORT FROM THE PEOPLE.
– Sincerely, a very embarrassed dane
el_salinho on
They are using the russian tactic. By asking for outrageous things first and not relenting in their wishes, they hope to get at least SOMETHING, which will be more than what they started with.
NEVER GIVE UP! Fight these totalitarians!
Wheatley1665 on
Good news sir, we managed to remove half your cancer!
EmbarrassedHelp on
In addition making our voices heard with politicians, we should be encouraging companies, governments, and organizations to blacklist any organization that is supporting Chat Control. Examples of organizations supporting Chat Control include:
> Internet Watch Foundation (IWF), the Canadian Centre for Child Protection (C3P), the International Justice Mission (IJM), ECPAT, the Children’s Rights Network, World Vision, Terre des Hommes, Innocence in Danger, the World Childhood Foundation, the Stiftung digitale Chancen, the Children’s Rights Network Germany, SafeToNet Foundation, Thorn, Ecpat network, the Brave organization, the PR agency Purpose, Justice Initiative, Oak Foundation, Eurochild, Missing Children Europe, Hopewell Fund, Heat Initiative, Children’s Investment Fund Foundation
You want to defeat Chat Control permanently? Completely cut off these terrible organizations from the rest of society.
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We really need these people out of power already…
How about the Danish stop obsessively pushing for this shit?
In what way is this half good? A bad thing that is 50% smaller is still all bad. This is still not a reasonable compromise
“Last proposition was three times worse than any chinese, russian or usain legislation about spying on nationals, but rejoice, the new one is only half as bad.”
“Half-good” is being too generous. Actually even the Parliament’s proposal with warants would be abused. It’d be used against whistleblowers, against Ukrainian assets in Russia, etc.
After you have a warant to spy on a device, then you should execute the warant by (a) secretly gain physical and install mallware, (b) install mallware via phising or network level hack, or (c) pay an officer to use laser evesdropping.
[https://www.wired.com/story/infrared-laser-microphone-keystroke-surveillance/](https://www.wired.com/story/infrared-laser-microphone-keystroke-surveillance/)
As (c) always works, there are no valid law enforcement reasons to have a backdoor, just costs reasons, but the costs are precisely what prevent mass surveillance, and also what prevents hostile nations like Russia, China, US, etc from exploiting your system against you.
[The FBI now says everyone should use end-to-end encrypted messangers that the FBI cannot break](https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2024/12/06/fbi-warns-iphone-and-android-users-stop-sending-texts/), because China hacked all the US evesdropping infrastructure, and the USG cannot kick the Chinese out. lol
Danes… If you can’t handle the Euro, you can’t handle serious matters.
Here’s their end game:
“I can watch you poop, right?”
“What? No.”
“You’ll let me watch you poop?”
“NO.”
“Do you agree to letting me watch when you’re pooping?”
“No. No. Fuck off.”
“Wait, here is an agreement, please sign it to let me watch you poop.”
“No.”
“Person who is fine with letting me watching them poop says what”
“Wha.. GET LOST, STOP IT!”
“Will you let me *hear* you poop?”
“Jesus f-ing christ alright, what the hell, at least that’s not as bad.”
Hey, europeans! Spamcall your MP’s already! I don’t need this shit getting normalized and exported to my country.
the communication between individuals should be allowed to be secret at will of either corrosponder and only revealed through clear court order under publicly ascended legal mandate.
On behalf of the Danish people:
WE DONT WANT THIS. Peter Hummelgaard IS DOING THIS DESPITE NO SUPPORT FROM THE PEOPLE.
– Sincerely, a very embarrassed dane
They are using the russian tactic. By asking for outrageous things first and not relenting in their wishes, they hope to get at least SOMETHING, which will be more than what they started with.
NEVER GIVE UP! Fight these totalitarians!
Good news sir, we managed to remove half your cancer!
In addition making our voices heard with politicians, we should be encouraging companies, governments, and organizations to blacklist any organization that is supporting Chat Control. Examples of organizations supporting Chat Control include:
> Internet Watch Foundation (IWF), the Canadian Centre for Child Protection (C3P), the International Justice Mission (IJM), ECPAT, the Children’s Rights Network, World Vision, Terre des Hommes, Innocence in Danger, the World Childhood Foundation, the Stiftung digitale Chancen, the Children’s Rights Network Germany, SafeToNet Foundation, Thorn, Ecpat network, the Brave organization, the PR agency Purpose, Justice Initiative, Oak Foundation, Eurochild, Missing Children Europe, Hopewell Fund, Heat Initiative, Children’s Investment Fund Foundation
You want to defeat Chat Control permanently? Completely cut off these terrible organizations from the rest of society.