Inchiesta per verificare l’aumento dei giovani che non lavorano o non studiano
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0l7elxrr7ko
di m-1975
Inchiesta per verificare l’aumento dei giovani che non lavorano o non studiano
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0l7elxrr7ko
di m-1975
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Uk is a hopeless market what do you expect, there is no support for creative arts and it’s development.
A few younger people I know have summed it up for me like this:
“Someone on minimum wage can’t afford to move out to start their own life. So even if you do get a job, you’re still stuck at home with your parents. So what’s the gain? If you’re already stuck at home, why not just relax and do your own thing instead of slaving away at some soulless job that won’t pay enough to start a life. And university is just a way to incur huge debt with no guarantee of a job. It’s all just pointless.”
Not saying I agree with them but the old arguments of ‘work hard and you’ll get a promotion and have a great life’ aren’t true any more.
Inquiry finds RR jobs tax is to blame…
Some questions are best left unanswered.
It’s simple. They are clearly all slackers. We have told them to “pull your socks up and knuckle down” and… they haven’t. What more would we rich older people need to do to motivate them?
It’s not like they have to do one job until they are 65…. they will probably only work 6-10 years before being replaced with robots.
Kids today don’t know how good they’ve got it.
One might think that the rise also correlates in the reduction of pay differential in hiring young people – and yes the decline in retail and hospitality positions overall.
Young people cant get jobs for love nor money because getting hired has become impossible, hope that helps
For some context here, I entered the workforce in 2006 and eneded up unemployed during the 2008 financial crisis and it remained that way for 18 months as nobody was hiring…… so from someone who has lived through one of our worst times I would say whats going on right now is equally bad, if not worse!
Young people are getting absolutely shafted and I feel so sorry for them, opportunities are way harder to come by right now. Employers all want the same thing, someone that is fully qualified and can hit the ground running. In house training has been gutted to the point where its like finding a unicorn when one pops up.
Whats the point in working anymore. Can’t afford anything working full time. Not saying benefits is the way to go but you might as well work as little as possible – just enough so you can afford to live and not an hour more
Don’t blame them. They can’t afford a home, they’ll be taxed for existing, so why not just do nothing, and then the state will provide for them?
Would you be motivated to find a job if your full time salary will be too low to afford rent, you will have no time to enjoy life, and your job will be replaced by AI in the near future anyway?
We’ve created an absolutely shit society. If I were a teenager right now, I’d feel pretty hopeless.
In China it’s called Tang ping. I’ll quote Wikipedia here.
“Tang ping (Chinese: 躺平; lit. ‘lying flat’) is a Chinese slang term that describes a personal rejection of societal pressures to overwork and over-achieve, such as in the 996 working hour system, which is often regarded as a rat race with ever diminishing returns. Tang ping means choosing to “lie down flat and get over the beatings” by adopting a “low-desire life.”
It’s a global phenomenon, basically kids are giving up because boomers have fucked the world beyond saving.
The life route too many kids take is
Last year of school instead of focusing on work/study they are all trying to figure out how they will become social media famous/content creators or young parents..the life isn’t there for them anymore and this is not the generation to be single as people are finding out.
I guess it comes down to some young people thinking ‘why bother’. Education and entry level jobs should be a pathway to pay progression, as you gain experience, prove your worth and move up the chain, but the uplift for most ‘normal’ jobs just isn’t there any more. The middle is collapsing and the stereotypical lifestyle – semi detached house, estate car, two holidays a years, couple of kids – seems increasingly out of reach for a lot of people.
I would like to enter a little insight as a 29 year old. Spent my teens to early 20s working in hospitality. Bartender/ to chef to manager. The pay was abysmal at all stages and I was constantly overworked. I once done over 70hrs in one week. So when lockdown hit I finally took it as a chance to move on and better myself so I started to go back to college and go to university. Decided the rising demand of cyber security was the way to go whilst working and using student loans to pay for more certs. Finally graduated this year and guess what? No jobs in the industry. Too old for placements. also can’t get in as 1st line support as they prefer younger graduates. Not only that a lot of companies are trying AI now. So I’m up to my eyes in debt the restaurant I was last working just closed. To top it all off all none degree jobs e.g waiter, supermarkets, etc. are zero hour contracts. Got hired at one and worked 5 hours in two weeks.I have no idea what I’m personally going to do. I’ve worked my ass off for years and it just seems pointless. If it wasn’t for my kid I’d probably just off myself.
It’s AI and offshoring that have killed the need for expensive humans. Why train someone when ai can do it and if they can’t a fully trained worker in another country can do it for half the price.
When you tax people to work, and give people free money not to work, what do you think three results will be…
It is much harder for young people now than it was in 2000.
At risk of sounding like a grumpy old woman though there also seems to have been a big increase in expectations of what a decent life should be. In my 20’s me and my friends were struggling like hell living in shared mouldy run down flats, being screwed around by terrible bosses on 0 hours contracts, living off cheap packet noodles and a night out used to be all of us buying a pint of soft drink at the pub and taking it in turns to smuggle in the cheapest bottle of vodka we could find to top them up.
Being able to afford a landline phone and get dial up Internet was a huge deal and the first thing I did when I got my first ‘proper’ job with a salary. Most of us were well into our 30’s and a few steps up the career ladder before the house / car / holidays type life was possible. Nearly everyone who got there earlier had an inheritance from Grandparents or assistance from parents.
I’d expect to see it being a predominantly young men issue.
The education system doesn’t cater to their needs as they grow up meaning fewer of them go onto higher education, employers then preferentially hire young women because they tend to be better qualified and they don’t want to appear sexist.
Young person here (25F). I am currently doing a masters degree. I graduated this year with a STEM undergrad and prior to that was working 16-30 hours a week in retail 2019-2022. When I worked in retail I tried really hard to make upward progression becoming a team leader, I was shot down very often. Told not to express my opinions or try to enact positive differences in the work environment because “people don’t like change”. I was told to stop being interfering, told I was too nice and spending too long with customers, chastised for doing my best to give people great service because I was not being a “team” player. Undermined and overruled by the management. A lot of things were wrong with that work place, but suffice to say my desire to go back into retail is very small.
I have studied incredibly hard and am now facing the reality that I will have to find employment again by next summer when my MSc ends… and there is nothing. I’ve turned into a miserable cynic because all roads lead to nothing. Everything available pays abysmally and can’t support any standard of living. Rent is supposed to be 1/3 of your pay check. Most places where I live are around 1500 a month which for minimum wage, is almost your ENTIRE salary. I’m tired, I’m 25 and I’m already tired… it’s sad and pointless.