L’ascesa del nazionalismo cristiano in Gran Bretagna
https://news.sky.com/story/the-rise-of-christian-nationalism-in-britain-13465800
di StGuthlac2025
L’ascesa del nazionalismo cristiano in Gran Bretagna
https://news.sky.com/story/the-rise-of-christian-nationalism-in-britain-13465800
di StGuthlac2025
32 commenti
The rise of Christian Nationalists who have never been to church and hate most of the people that live here. Sounds about right…
Imported from the USA Christian Fundamental Nationalists, who do not have a Christian bone in their body.
Christian in name only… intolerant extremists is a better description
Another weird Baptist sect busy doing its thing, rejecting the CoE as heretics is pretty much par for that particular course. I am surprised he didn’t manage to drag the Catholics into the heretic tent as well they usually never miss an opportunity to have a go at them.
They lack the political structure in the UK unlike the US and not even Reform is going near these guys, nothing guaranteed to kill election momentum than candidates shouting at voters they need to come to Jesus and repent.
I am traditionally right wing (I don’t think so but people tell me I am so who knows) and this shit can get lost. Patriotism is turfing out Christian fundamentalist extremist weirdos, we got rid of them before for a reason and it’s a patriotic pro British stance to tell them to shove off again.
I don’t have time for religions when they infringe on the rights, freedoms and consent of other people. Keep your religious restrictions and judgements to yourself. Religions have so much leeway for absolutely ridiculous beliefs and demands that they hide behind religious freedom.
Ok, and? This level of hatred towards Christianity actually shocks me, if it was towards the golden goat, people would be up in arms to defend, AND thats not even sarcasm.
Need to keep this sort of nonsense on the other side of the Atlantic.
I never seem to see evangelical Christians ask why so many people in Britain find their religion so unappealing.
If I wanted more Brits to be Christians, the first thing I would ask is why that isn’t already the case and start from there. Instead, all we ever get is the most bitter and hateful moaning and entitlement imaginable.
If you want people to become Christians, then sort your religion out and maybe people will give it a second look.
I’m right wing and certainly feel an affinity for the Christian church but I find that this wave of Christian nationalism feels distinctly un-English. The slogans and talking points sound imported, the rhetoric lacks a grounding in our own traditions and culture. When Americans invoke God and religion in political or general discourse, it makes sense within their national culture, as they are very open about their religion , the UK doesn’t have that same shared religious language, so when you hear these mantras it feels very un-English ironically
This is happening all around Europe. It’s very clear.
Clearly synthetic and funded by rich Americans / Maga / Elon / thiel.
Can’t we just create our own harmless religion here so all “these types” can keep busy with it and leave the rest alone?
Resist and challenge at all costs. It is American poison.
Seems like thee is a bit of a revival. Lots of influencers now talking about faith and there are a few ‘non trad’ churches near me – in a rural part of the UK.
We’ve got a Baptist church (not too weird) and also a Calvary that uses the village hall on Sundays. I’d never come across this before but they run bible study sessions – the one for men is called ‘Watchmen’ and the one for women is called ‘Abide’. Doesn’t feel super progressive and it’s run by an American pastor.
The local Anglican churches (4 under one vicar) have started running ‘bacon bap’ morning prayer sessions for young dads and bible study sessions in local pub one night a week.
Not sure if any of these are really Christian nationalist in the American sense but there seems to be a lot going on.
I think the issue might be that Christianity over here often had a pessimism to it which finds this sort of thing a bit repellent— if we feel this new stuff doesn’t feel especially British, that’s probably why.
I always come back to CS Lewis, who was of course incredibly socially conservative. But I think he’d have hated these guys. For two reasons:
—he was deeply hostile to the idea of progress as an inevitable or material fact of the universe
—he was suspicious of the idea humanity actually mattered very much in the scheme of things.
I often think those things that we now probably see as secular – pessimism for the future, doubt about the relative importance of our species – actually weren’t, here in Britain; not always. Lewis thought they were actively challenging Christianity, which is ironic given what happened next.
But I wonder if it’s maybe just the difference between how a country with a deep belief in manifest destiny sees the world, and how a country who’s been slowly declining for over a century does? Christianity contains both these things, but there’s a real philosophical opposition there that isn’t religious as such. It’s based on a faith in what the arc of the future is, and what our place in it will turn out to be?
But Christianity scaffolds over that, and so do our secular stories. This sort of tension exists in how we see evolution as well, I think. And I know evolution is *real*, I have a degree in it— but the point is that real things can still be organised into more than one narrative. Evolution inevitably produces us and will produce further progress; evolution can cause complex and beautiful things to dissolve if they are not fit to survive. What matters, I think, is the faith below the beliefs, more than the beliefs in themselves
This is not happening in a vacuum, or without cause.
Reading the comments, one would easily think so.
These people are reacting to what is a changing country, i.e this is a symptom not the ailment
Its actually truly shocking. As a foreigner who is about to visit, im very concerned. Truly shocking how the far right has become the norm in the UK….
These groups are of course nothing to do with spiritual belief. They’re about hate – generally of women, gays and assorted minorities. They’re about false certainties, about following ridiculous rules that their own leaders ignore and about a fear of difference.
We might like to think that as a species we’ve progressed and matured but the resurgence of this crap proves otherwise.
Fairly obvious it is not about Jesus but about the Christian values that supposedly underpin this country. You know, the Christian values such as tolerance, loving thy neighbour and charity; those Christian values Christian nationalists will extend towards all people, just like Christ wanted…
They are not Christian at all. A lot of churches have been following the words of Christ and actually helping immigrants and refugees with clothes drives and other activities. The most Christian people I know are all (legal) immigrants from Nigeria and Ghana. They go to church every week,do Bible study classes etc. because they believe in the word of Christ. These nationalists are latching onto religion to spread hate and to score cheap political points. Besides, while the UK was built upon Christian values, we are a secular society at best. Having your wedding in a church does not make you a Christian, nor does celebrating Christmas, it is just a tradition in a country that lost faith several decades ago.
This movement in america is christian in name only.
That’s fine, I’ve seen so many people on social media who are defenders of religions making their way into Britain and dictating how we run our island. I’m sure they’ll stand up to this.
Christian Nationalists positioned themselves as the bulwark against wokeness. If you ask me, this is what has given it any traction here in the UK.
People in the UK want something to rally around to push back on policies they see as nonsensical and overly progressive. They don’t really care about Christianity or Christian values. They just want a football team to cheer for that stops what they see as an unrelenting, illogical political movement that hates them.
Honestly, most of the awful right wing politics imported from the US, is here because for so long we’ve not been allowed to have open conversations about like mass immigration, trans identity, over representation of minority crime etc.
Anything that got you cancelled on the left for the last 10+ years – has directly given the right the cultural power of punk. Speaking to power.
Allowing people to have these conversations openly and honestly, without trial via court of public opinion would, in my opinion, completely undermine any foundations these idiots have.
A really tiny minority that I’m not worrying about any more than I am about rampant scientologists tbh.
Ahh yes, “Christian nationalists” who are….Rejecting the national (for England, I assume most of these people are English) Christian church for being “heretical”.
*More than 20 people answered the call he made on social media – one wears a T-shirt saying Jesus is King.*
More that 20!! This is getting serious.
For those calling this weird, it’s nothing new. If you read the history of the 17th century you’ll realize that British Protestantism never really was a single monolith under the umbrella of the hyper-establishment church of England. There always were fringe sects, extremists, memes crossing the Atlantic in both directions, and of course massive hostility to Catholics. These guys are in the tradition of Cromwell.
Oh no, this a special level of trash that needs to be nipped in the bud.
The irony, given some of them are racist and Jesus wasn’t white. Also, when was the last time or have they ever been to a church or follow the commandments.
I really hope it doesn’t happen as have you seen them over in America, most of them are nuts. Plus, it’s money maker as well, when a pastor lives in a mansion and drives a Ferrari, you know there is something wrong or we are in the wrong line of business. Religion sells.
I think people are just worried about the growth of other religions from other cultures and worried they’ll take over as the predominant culture so this is their way of fighting back
I have been warning about this shit for years. Everyone used to laugh and say we will never get evangelical shit hear because we weren’t that religious. Yet hear we were.
I have been seeing first hand, people I know starting to shift to a bat shit crazy white Christian nationalism.
The America far right are funding the British far right. The grift is going religious.
I am a Christian. I also really, sincerely want the best for this country and the wider world.
For me, the fundamental issue with Christian Nationalism is that it is fundamentally at odds with the message of Jesus as understood by the vast majority of people who read the Bible.
What is extremely difficult as someone who is politically and socially left-wing is attempting to explain this in sectarian spaces, because my politics and my theology go hand-in-hand, but the people who I agree with politically are generally quite disrespectful of my faith, so they aren’t equipped with the theological arguments that show how incoherent and inconsistent Christian nationalism is.
Bishop Ceirion Dewar there, marching with Robinson, and saying “This nation of ours is under attack! We are at war! We are at war not just with the Muslim, not just with wokeness.”
But when challenged, “Unfortunately, what I was trying to convey, having listened to an entire day’s worth of speeches, didn’t come across quite the way I’d hoped to have expressed it,” Dewar says.
People want a community they feel a part of. All these things sing to that tune. Flag, religions, identity, a gift given by birth that you can cling to, to find commonality. Add to that, it’s easy to feel persecuted and denied when there’s a denial of the right to display or celebrate these things in your home.
It’s not even manufactured, though it’s certainly oversold and exacerbated by social and traditional media. Unhelped by shortsighted politicians and red tape that inflames responses (the whole you can fly a Bangladeshi flag but not an English one being endemic to the whole situation).
I genuinely believe the best thing we can do is invest in grass roots traditional and social groups providing a place where people can celebrate their heritage in this country positively without the venom of far right ideologues dripping in every word and action. Provide a positivity and joy around At George’s day, encourage old traditions like Morris Dancing and the druids at Stone Henge, carol singers and guy Fawkes bonfires. All that and more besides, revive old things and make new as part of a community process.
Of course that all requires time, money and effort and we’ve had nothing but penny pinching and cost cutting in every area of government that doesn’t line the pockets of Tory friends and family for my entire adult life thusfar so I’m not holding out hope of some social investment programmes to help salve the isolation and split found even if people agreed with me.