I know this isn’t a popular idea, even within the left. But investing in poorer children is probably the best use of money us as a country can do.
ClassicFlavour on
How many more ‘suggests’ and ‘may do’ stories do you reckon will get over the next two and half weeks before we actually get the budget?
MEXIC075 on
Brilliant, where is the money for that going to come from?
PurpWippleM3 on
That’s all we need. More money out of the Treasury at a time when there’s not enough going in.
Express-Doughnut-562 on
The optics of doing this whilst calling singe earners >£50k the ‘broadest shoulders’ would be pretty damn grim.
tigerjed on
Is this not borderline self destructive behaviour.
More money to those in benefits, likely taken from working families or those who are planning to start one.
This would give those on universal credit an extra 300 a month for every child right? At what point does it become more viable to sit at home than work a below average wage job?
Ars-Gun-Invincible on
Makes no sense at all. I really do question if this money actually gets to the children who need it.
Low_Map4314 on
“Through no fault of their own”
Hmm, I reckon it takes two to tango whilst knowing you are broke af to afford kids …
Dedsnotdead on
Don’t worry, we were told right at the start that this time it will be different and the grown ups were in charge.
It’s a clown show and we all deserve better. We’ve deserved better for the best part of two decades now but honestly the last few weeks have been farcical in Government.
cooky561 on
I hate these “may” stories, she may also decide that we’re going to spend our entire budget on going to the moon. No-one knows anything until the budget is released.
What is a concern is that there’s so much speculation around it, is it to manage expectations, or is it the press being the press?
Cleanman_comith on
Country has no money.
Yeah let’s up the welfare bill and get the people that have some money to pay for it.
Fuxxing idot.
Alive-Turnip-3145 on
Spend baby, spend. Seems like RR is going to go for a (or mutilple) big Tax Rises and wants to distract by spending a few billion on hand outs.
DennisAFiveStarMan on
Labour are desperate to lose for some reason. Must love being in opposition.
finniruse on
I really must be a conservative because I absolutely fucking despise Reeves.
Truss takes the cake, but my god, I hate her face. Painful watching her learn on the job.
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Sinkrim on
No child is going hungry in Britain. It’s completely mental to think anyone in Britain is suffering from an inability to source enough calories.
Electronic_Cream_780 on
I didn’t vote for Labour, but I did kind of think that with a lawyer in charge and 14 years of waiting, they would have a coherent plan and the back benches would be behind it.
But we’ve got the same old “winging it” plan with no-one knowing wtf is happening
It531z on
This government must go. They don’t have a clue what they’re doing outside of a rigid adherence to their ideology of ‘people earning money=bad and more public spending= good’
This so called ‘party of working people’ has done nothing but shit on working people in favour of non working people since they got in
Present_Pepper on
Whilst I do agree that poor/every child should receive every possible “leg up” coming of taxing the middle class is a bit ridiculous. Should we not tax corporations, the ultra wealthy and explore better options e.g legalising cannabis to boost tax / maybe adding tax to shop bought booze to deter miss use of funds. am I being ridiculous? or are we just decimating the people who got it right once more?
TheCharalampos on
Man, this sub can be depressing at times. So many gung ho guys thinking labour isn’t doing well because they aren’t tough enough.
Brother-Executor on
You cannot tax working people more only to increase benefits.
BusInternational1080 on
Do people pay tax if their benefit is over £12,500 ?
Weird-Statistician on
Can we pay this in vouchers for kids clothes, food, nappies etc so I’m sure, as a childless person funding it, that it actually goes to the upkeep of the children?
Rough_Champion7852 on
This would be a mistake. So many working families would like child 3 or 4 but simply cannot afford it.
This would just be a big FU to those families.
OCDOG24 on
i’m starting to understand why rough girls pop out babies. im trying to get a mortgage at the minute and its a nightmare, if i had a kid id be top of the list for social housing and be getting my rent paid for me.
PhilosopherNo8418 on
>The chancellor told the BBC it was not right that children in bigger families were “penalised” through “no fault of their own”.
Well maybe not the children’s fault but it certainly was their parents. They made the conscious decision to have a large family that needed subsidising by the state. I don’t see why responsible working parents who limited the number of children they had to what they can afford should have to pay more in tax to fund these large families.
Manoj109 on
To be honest. This is not fair on middle earners who would like to have kids but cannot because they cannot afford the childcare and associated costs.
Why should a Middle earner pay for the kids of the feckless. It is not fair and it is not right.
Commercial-Silver472 on
What about the kids of people who earn over 60k or whatever the limit is? Aren’t they suffering?
Ok-Cryptographer440 on
So people unemployed having larger than normal families that they can’t afford or support. Ok. Who’s that in modern Britain? Meanwhile my hard earned money that I work 60-80hrs a week is completely robbed from me.
cragglerock93 on
Who would want to be Chancellor? Seriously, she cannot fucking win. She’s been relentlessly criticised for maintaining this Tory policy, calling it anti-working class, inhumane, all the rest of it, but when the idea is floated to remove it, she gets accused of bankrolling feckless benefits claimants at the expense of working people. What a cursed job.
Anoooooooooooooooo on
Perhaps an unpopular opinion- But why is the government supporting those who don’t have the resources to manage more than 2 kids but still want to have more than 2 kids
jenny_905 on
ITT: whinging tories who probably benefited from child benefit but want to deny it to everyone else.
mancunian101 on
What are we going to pay for this with, brass buttons and good intentions?
We keep getting told about ever increasing black holes in the budget, but they want to keep increasing the stuff we have to pay for.
RevolutionaryPass355 on
Scrap the FUCKING TRIPLE LOCK and winter fuel. Honestly if my take home drops any as a middle earner and my salary sacrifice pension contributions get fucked with after this bastard of a budget I’m never voting for this gash of a government again
Dull_World4255 on
Here we go. Labour trying to win back some of their waning support by way of rewarding laziness, a lack of ambition, sponging, those who play the system and the genuinely impoverished, whilst at the same time attacking the workers of this county because they don’t fall into any of the aforementioned categories.
Labour will break this country.
Electronic_Priority on
*The chancellor told the BBC it was not right that children in bigger families were “penalised” through “no fault of their own”.*
Having additional children and pushing your family into poverty is definitely a choice and hence the parent’s “fault”.
Fadesintodust on
I lost all respect when they went back on the decision to scrap the winter fuel allowance.
It was a tough decision. It went down badly. Instead of shouldering it they withered and squirmed and went – backsies!
The very people this benefit benefits will not be the ones voting labour.
I won’t be either now.
ToryFucker1 on
Either every post involving Reeves is being brigaded to fuck (which seems likely) or this sub has a raging hard on for being contrarian all of the time.
One minute we must lift the benefit cap, my god why are we not helping these vulnerable people, why are they being punished?!
Next minute, a la the comments here, theyre being absolutely pasted for their vulnerability, and there is no money.
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I know this isn’t a popular idea, even within the left. But investing in poorer children is probably the best use of money us as a country can do.
How many more ‘suggests’ and ‘may do’ stories do you reckon will get over the next two and half weeks before we actually get the budget?
Brilliant, where is the money for that going to come from?
That’s all we need. More money out of the Treasury at a time when there’s not enough going in.
The optics of doing this whilst calling singe earners >£50k the ‘broadest shoulders’ would be pretty damn grim.
Is this not borderline self destructive behaviour.
More money to those in benefits, likely taken from working families or those who are planning to start one.
This would give those on universal credit an extra 300 a month for every child right? At what point does it become more viable to sit at home than work a below average wage job?
Makes no sense at all. I really do question if this money actually gets to the children who need it.
“Through no fault of their own”
Hmm, I reckon it takes two to tango whilst knowing you are broke af to afford kids …
Don’t worry, we were told right at the start that this time it will be different and the grown ups were in charge.
It’s a clown show and we all deserve better. We’ve deserved better for the best part of two decades now but honestly the last few weeks have been farcical in Government.
I hate these “may” stories, she may also decide that we’re going to spend our entire budget on going to the moon. No-one knows anything until the budget is released.
What is a concern is that there’s so much speculation around it, is it to manage expectations, or is it the press being the press?
Country has no money.
Yeah let’s up the welfare bill and get the people that have some money to pay for it.
Fuxxing idot.
Spend baby, spend. Seems like RR is going to go for a (or mutilple) big Tax Rises and wants to distract by spending a few billion on hand outs.
Labour are desperate to lose for some reason. Must love being in opposition.
I really must be a conservative because I absolutely fucking despise Reeves.
Truss takes the cake, but my god, I hate her face. Painful watching her learn on the job.
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No child is going hungry in Britain. It’s completely mental to think anyone in Britain is suffering from an inability to source enough calories.
I didn’t vote for Labour, but I did kind of think that with a lawyer in charge and 14 years of waiting, they would have a coherent plan and the back benches would be behind it.
But we’ve got the same old “winging it” plan with no-one knowing wtf is happening
This government must go. They don’t have a clue what they’re doing outside of a rigid adherence to their ideology of ‘people earning money=bad and more public spending= good’
This so called ‘party of working people’ has done nothing but shit on working people in favour of non working people since they got in
Whilst I do agree that poor/every child should receive every possible “leg up” coming of taxing the middle class is a bit ridiculous. Should we not tax corporations, the ultra wealthy and explore better options e.g legalising cannabis to boost tax / maybe adding tax to shop bought booze to deter miss use of funds. am I being ridiculous? or are we just decimating the people who got it right once more?
Man, this sub can be depressing at times. So many gung ho guys thinking labour isn’t doing well because they aren’t tough enough.
You cannot tax working people more only to increase benefits.
Do people pay tax if their benefit is over £12,500 ?
Can we pay this in vouchers for kids clothes, food, nappies etc so I’m sure, as a childless person funding it, that it actually goes to the upkeep of the children?
This would be a mistake. So many working families would like child 3 or 4 but simply cannot afford it.
This would just be a big FU to those families.
i’m starting to understand why rough girls pop out babies. im trying to get a mortgage at the minute and its a nightmare, if i had a kid id be top of the list for social housing and be getting my rent paid for me.
>The chancellor told the BBC it was not right that children in bigger families were “penalised” through “no fault of their own”.
Well maybe not the children’s fault but it certainly was their parents. They made the conscious decision to have a large family that needed subsidising by the state. I don’t see why responsible working parents who limited the number of children they had to what they can afford should have to pay more in tax to fund these large families.
To be honest. This is not fair on middle earners who would like to have kids but cannot because they cannot afford the childcare and associated costs.
Why should a Middle earner pay for the kids of the feckless. It is not fair and it is not right.
What about the kids of people who earn over 60k or whatever the limit is? Aren’t they suffering?
So people unemployed having larger than normal families that they can’t afford or support. Ok. Who’s that in modern Britain? Meanwhile my hard earned money that I work 60-80hrs a week is completely robbed from me.
Who would want to be Chancellor? Seriously, she cannot fucking win. She’s been relentlessly criticised for maintaining this Tory policy, calling it anti-working class, inhumane, all the rest of it, but when the idea is floated to remove it, she gets accused of bankrolling feckless benefits claimants at the expense of working people. What a cursed job.
Perhaps an unpopular opinion- But why is the government supporting those who don’t have the resources to manage more than 2 kids but still want to have more than 2 kids
ITT: whinging tories who probably benefited from child benefit but want to deny it to everyone else.
What are we going to pay for this with, brass buttons and good intentions?
We keep getting told about ever increasing black holes in the budget, but they want to keep increasing the stuff we have to pay for.
Scrap the FUCKING TRIPLE LOCK and winter fuel. Honestly if my take home drops any as a middle earner and my salary sacrifice pension contributions get fucked with after this bastard of a budget I’m never voting for this gash of a government again
Here we go. Labour trying to win back some of their waning support by way of rewarding laziness, a lack of ambition, sponging, those who play the system and the genuinely impoverished, whilst at the same time attacking the workers of this county because they don’t fall into any of the aforementioned categories.
Labour will break this country.
*The chancellor told the BBC it was not right that children in bigger families were “penalised” through “no fault of their own”.*
Having additional children and pushing your family into poverty is definitely a choice and hence the parent’s “fault”.
I lost all respect when they went back on the decision to scrap the winter fuel allowance.
It was a tough decision. It went down badly. Instead of shouldering it they withered and squirmed and went – backsies!
The very people this benefit benefits will not be the ones voting labour.
I won’t be either now.
Either every post involving Reeves is being brigaded to fuck (which seems likely) or this sub has a raging hard on for being contrarian all of the time.
One minute we must lift the benefit cap, my god why are we not helping these vulnerable people, why are they being punished?!
Next minute, a la the comments here, theyre being absolutely pasted for their vulnerability, and there is no money.
*MAKE. YOUR. FUCKING. MINDS. UP. YOU. STUPID. FUCKING. DICKHEADS.*