Ireland is not gonna be a part of that realistically
Downtown-Act-590 on
What the hell is this?
Did landlocked Czechia seriously get a nuclear aircraft carrier on this map?
davus_maximus on
Aahh, the beginnings of the UEO Navy. Later, the naval arm of Starfleet. Where’s Roy Scheider?
Potential-Bug-8529 on
Sevastopol? That’s ambitious
Fresh_Mango_juice on
The Václav Havel aircraft carrier was an April fool’s joke
Initial-Chemical748 on
Why do you have Stavanger marked as a base in Norway and not Bergen when Haakonsvern is the largest naval base in Norway?
Edit : Haakonsvern is one of the largest naval bases in Northern Europe
Travelogue on
Longyearbyen is not gonna happen.
BigDee1990 on
Yeah, as if Germany ever would build an aircraft carrier. Will never happen.
RealSuggestion9247 on
Air craft carriers are essentially a tool for force projection. Europe does not need such naval assets in a hypothetical war with Russia. They are expensive and have little utility fighting a war on NATO’s eastern and northern flank.
They would have some utility maintaining the Uk, Iceland Greenland gap denying Russian subs access to shipping lanes. Here the existing UK France and Italy (?) ships should be enough. But dollar for dollar more could probably be done with less using Asw frigates/destroyers, conventional subs and long range aircraft.
Edit: the map also conveniently places major naval stations where none are today, and misses existing naval stations….
Entire thing I ragebait bs
hmtk1976 on
Which teenage boy made this funny map? 🤣
Also: cruisers… what a joke.
OP blocked me. Crying somewhere in a corner?
KerbalEnginner on
Oh UK is there. How old is this?
Also love the fact Ukraine and Georgia are considered EU. And is Belarus too?
And also good to see Královec (known as Kaliningrad today) will go to Czechia for their naval base so they can manage the Václav Havel aircraft carrier.
Ok-Cartoonist-4458 on
I will be two more red and green just im case.
Spam subs r/hoi4
Developer2022 on
Poles: Jerzy Świrski. Good look Germans spelling this or others 😅😎
martinborgen on
This is just fanfic?
Personally, I think Schumann should have a carrier named after him
Potential-South-2807 on
Fantasy at best
GremlinX_ll on
That’s an old map ? “*Sahaidachny*” was scuttled in the beginning of the invasion
Also, it’s very optimistic, since we facing one crisis after another
jatawis on
Is Svalbard convention going to be denounced?
Nekrose on
According to whom? Some respectable research group or a guy in a gaming chair. Context.
Earl0fYork on
This post is just a Euro fed fanfic there isn’t much to it of substance
watch-nerd on
7 aircraft carriers?
Full size ones, or those little mini helicopter carriers?
DrMon15 on
Dundee has a naval base? The Tay is remarkably shallow and I don’t recall any bases at sea either…
Pure_Ad6415 on
Vaclav Havel so Czechia will get sea access. Kralovec?
IslandOutrageous2667 on
Seeing my hometown Wilhelmshaven as a European Main Base is… interesting. But it would explain alot of things happening here since 2025.
Straight-WhiteMan on
Václav Havel, best carrier of all
wojtekpolska on
Belarus in the EU but not Turkey? lmao
tree_boom on
It’s fun to play fantasy fleets.
TheHeroBehindNothing on
Well the map by itself is very questionable but I ll give my 2 cents. For Greece the crete naval base (Souda naval base) is probably better for a european navy since it is probably the only deep water naval base in the eastern mediteranian that can support supercarriers.
AR_Harlock on
Notes. TARANTO not TARENTE
The_memeperson on
What the hell do we need 7 aircraft carriers for????
DarrensDodgyDenim on
Not sure what the OP has been drinking, but I am having what he is having.
Noctew on
Why would we want seven aircraft carriers? Those are offensive weapons, a navy focused on territorial defense does not need aircraft carriers. Interventionist navies like the US navy do.
andyrocks on
Dundee as a major naval base?
RomanticFaceTech on
Looking into this a little harder than the OP appears to.
The actual source for this appears to be u/midnightrambulador who posted this image on r/imaginarymaps a couple of years ago:
> *L’Europe glorieuse, ce sont des flottes, des navires et encore des navires, des sillages sur l’eau des mers; ce sont des peuples de marins, des ports, des chantiers navals.*
> This map presents the structure of the Federal Navy: its fleets (5 regional fleets plus a “High Seas Fleet” with worldwide reach), major bases, and capital ships (aircraft carriers and cruisers). Carriers are named after statesmen and intellectuals who contributed to the cause of European unity; cruisers are named after famous admirals from European history.
> I make no claims to military or nautical realism – this map mostly serves to add flavour and symbolism to the setting. What’s a federal Europe without a Jacques Delors aircraft carrier?
berejser on
Don’t forget hospital ships. During the next big earthquake, in Turkey or elsewhere, the ability to put a state-of-the-art hospital just off the coast would be an absolute game-changer for Europe’s soft power.
CBOE-VIX on
👆 Least delusional r/Europe post of the month.
sourflavouronice on
There is a proverb in Turkish:
You don’t say “amen” to a prayer that won’t come true.
Drummk on
Dundee? Don’t think that’s ever been a naval base. Rosyth would be more likely.
danrokk on
LFG!
minzhu0305 on
The British will not agree to the establishment of a European army.
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Ireland is not gonna be a part of that realistically
What the hell is this?
Did landlocked Czechia seriously get a nuclear aircraft carrier on this map?
Aahh, the beginnings of the UEO Navy. Later, the naval arm of Starfleet. Where’s Roy Scheider?
Sevastopol? That’s ambitious
The Václav Havel aircraft carrier was an April fool’s joke
Why do you have Stavanger marked as a base in Norway and not Bergen when Haakonsvern is the largest naval base in Norway?
Edit : Haakonsvern is one of the largest naval bases in Northern Europe
Longyearbyen is not gonna happen.
Yeah, as if Germany ever would build an aircraft carrier. Will never happen.
Air craft carriers are essentially a tool for force projection. Europe does not need such naval assets in a hypothetical war with Russia. They are expensive and have little utility fighting a war on NATO’s eastern and northern flank.
They would have some utility maintaining the Uk, Iceland Greenland gap denying Russian subs access to shipping lanes. Here the existing UK France and Italy (?) ships should be enough. But dollar for dollar more could probably be done with less using Asw frigates/destroyers, conventional subs and long range aircraft.
Edit: the map also conveniently places major naval stations where none are today, and misses existing naval stations….
Entire thing I ragebait bs
Which teenage boy made this funny map? 🤣
Also: cruisers… what a joke.
OP blocked me. Crying somewhere in a corner?
Oh UK is there. How old is this?
Also love the fact Ukraine and Georgia are considered EU. And is Belarus too?
And also good to see Královec (known as Kaliningrad today) will go to Czechia for their naval base so they can manage the Václav Havel aircraft carrier.
I will be two more red and green just im case.
Spam subs r/hoi4
Poles: Jerzy Świrski. Good look Germans spelling this or others 😅😎
This is just fanfic?
Personally, I think Schumann should have a carrier named after him
Fantasy at best
That’s an old map ? “*Sahaidachny*” was scuttled in the beginning of the invasion
Also, it’s very optimistic, since we facing one crisis after another
Is Svalbard convention going to be denounced?
According to whom? Some respectable research group or a guy in a gaming chair. Context.
This post is just a Euro fed fanfic there isn’t much to it of substance
7 aircraft carriers?
Full size ones, or those little mini helicopter carriers?
Dundee has a naval base? The Tay is remarkably shallow and I don’t recall any bases at sea either…
Vaclav Havel so Czechia will get sea access. Kralovec?
Seeing my hometown Wilhelmshaven as a European Main Base is… interesting. But it would explain alot of things happening here since 2025.
Václav Havel, best carrier of all
Belarus in the EU but not Turkey? lmao
It’s fun to play fantasy fleets.
Well the map by itself is very questionable but I ll give my 2 cents. For Greece the crete naval base (Souda naval base) is probably better for a european navy since it is probably the only deep water naval base in the eastern mediteranian that can support supercarriers.
Notes. TARANTO not TARENTE
What the hell do we need 7 aircraft carriers for????
Not sure what the OP has been drinking, but I am having what he is having.
Why would we want seven aircraft carriers? Those are offensive weapons, a navy focused on territorial defense does not need aircraft carriers. Interventionist navies like the US navy do.
Dundee as a major naval base?
Looking into this a little harder than the OP appears to.
The actual source for this appears to be u/midnightrambulador who posted this image on r/imaginarymaps a couple of years ago:
https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/comments/136wb1q/europa_foederatissima_fleets_major_bases_and/
Their comment about the map:
> *L’Europe glorieuse, ce sont des flottes, des navires et encore des navires, des sillages sur l’eau des mers; ce sont des peuples de marins, des ports, des chantiers navals.*
> – Fernand Braudel
> This is part of my “Europa Foederatissima” setting: a vision of what a federal Europe might look like in 2060-2070ish, leaning heavily on French Revolutionary/Napoleontic aesthetics. Earlier posts [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/comments/s4phud/future_federal_europe_with_frenchstyle/) and [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/comments/12hq9o4/whats_direct_rule_from_brussels_without_direct/).
> This map presents the structure of the Federal Navy: its fleets (5 regional fleets plus a “High Seas Fleet” with worldwide reach), major bases, and capital ships (aircraft carriers and cruisers). Carriers are named after statesmen and intellectuals who contributed to the cause of European unity; cruisers are named after famous admirals from European history.
> I make no claims to military or nautical realism – this map mostly serves to add flavour and symbolism to the setting. What’s a federal Europe without a Jacques Delors aircraft carrier?
Don’t forget hospital ships. During the next big earthquake, in Turkey or elsewhere, the ability to put a state-of-the-art hospital just off the coast would be an absolute game-changer for Europe’s soft power.
👆 Least delusional r/Europe post of the month.
There is a proverb in Turkish:
You don’t say “amen” to a prayer that won’t come true.
Dundee? Don’t think that’s ever been a naval base. Rosyth would be more likely.
LFG!
The British will not agree to the establishment of a European army.
let’s do this great Europe Nation!!