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    1. Downtown-Act-590 on

      What the hell is this?

      Did landlocked Czechia seriously get a nuclear aircraft carrier on this map?

    2. davus_maximus on

      Aahh, the beginnings of the UEO Navy. Later, the naval arm of Starfleet. Where’s Roy Scheider?

    3. Fresh_Mango_juice on

      The Václav Havel aircraft carrier was an April fool’s joke

    4. Initial-Chemical748 on

      Why do you have Stavanger marked as a base in Norway and not Bergen when Haakonsvern is the largest naval base in Norway?

      Edit : Haakonsvern is one of the largest naval bases in Northern Europe 

    5. BigDee1990 on

      Yeah, as if Germany ever would build an aircraft carrier. Will never happen.

    6. RealSuggestion9247 on

      Air craft carriers are essentially a tool for force projection. Europe does not need such naval assets in a hypothetical war with Russia. They are expensive and have little utility fighting a war on NATO’s eastern and northern flank.

      They would have some utility maintaining the Uk, Iceland Greenland gap denying Russian subs access to shipping lanes. Here the existing UK France and Italy (?) ships should be enough. But dollar for dollar more could probably be done with less using Asw frigates/destroyers, conventional subs and long range aircraft.

      Edit: the map also conveniently places major naval stations where none are today, and misses existing naval stations….

      Entire thing I ragebait bs

    7. hmtk1976 on

      Which teenage boy made this funny map? 🤣

      Also: cruisers… what a joke.

      OP blocked me. Crying somewhere in a corner?

    8. KerbalEnginner on

      Oh UK is there. How old is this?
      Also love the fact Ukraine and Georgia are considered EU. And is Belarus too?
      And also good to see Královec (known as Kaliningrad today) will go to Czechia for their naval base so they can manage the Václav Havel aircraft carrier.

    9. Ok-Cartoonist-4458 on

      I will be two more red and green just im case.

      Spam subs r/hoi4

    10. Developer2022 on

      Poles: Jerzy Świrski. Good look Germans spelling this or others 😅😎

    11. martinborgen on

      This is just fanfic?

      Personally, I think Schumann should have a carrier named after him

    12. GremlinX_ll on

      That’s an old map ? “*Sahaidachny*” was scuttled in the beginning of the invasion

      Also, it’s very optimistic, since we facing one crisis after another

    13. According to whom? Some respectable research group or a guy in a gaming chair. Context.

    14. Earl0fYork on

      This post is just a Euro fed fanfic there isn’t much to it of substance

    15. watch-nerd on

      7 aircraft carriers?

      Full size ones, or those little mini helicopter carriers?

    16. Dundee has a naval base? The Tay is remarkably shallow and I don’t recall any bases at sea either…

    17. IslandOutrageous2667 on

      Seeing my hometown Wilhelmshaven as a European Main Base is… interesting. But it would explain alot of things happening here since 2025.

    18. TheHeroBehindNothing on

      Well the map by itself is very questionable but I ll give my 2 cents. For Greece the crete naval base (Souda naval base) is probably better for a european navy since it is probably the only deep water naval base in the eastern mediteranian that can support supercarriers.

    19. DarrensDodgyDenim on

      Not sure what the OP has been drinking, but I am having what he is having.

    20. Why would we want seven aircraft carriers? Those are offensive weapons, a navy focused on territorial defense does not need aircraft carriers. Interventionist navies like the US navy do.

    21. RomanticFaceTech on

      Looking into this a little harder than the OP appears to.

      The actual source for this appears to be u/midnightrambulador who posted this image on r/imaginarymaps a couple of years ago:

      https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/comments/136wb1q/europa_foederatissima_fleets_major_bases_and/

      Their comment about the map:

      > *L’Europe glorieuse, ce sont des flottes, des navires et encore des navires, des sillages sur l’eau des mers; ce sont des peuples de marins, des ports, des chantiers navals.*

      > – Fernand Braudel

      > This is part of my “Europa Foederatissima” setting: a vision of what a federal Europe might look like in 2060-2070ish, leaning heavily on French Revolutionary/Napoleontic aesthetics. Earlier posts [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/comments/s4phud/future_federal_europe_with_frenchstyle/) and [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/comments/12hq9o4/whats_direct_rule_from_brussels_without_direct/).

      > This map presents the structure of the Federal Navy: its fleets (5 regional fleets plus a “High Seas Fleet” with worldwide reach), major bases, and capital ships (aircraft carriers and cruisers). Carriers are named after statesmen and intellectuals who contributed to the cause of European unity; cruisers are named after famous admirals from European history.

      > I make no claims to military or nautical realism – this map mostly serves to add flavour and symbolism to the setting. What’s a federal Europe without a Jacques Delors aircraft carrier?

    22. berejser on

      Don’t forget hospital ships. During the next big earthquake, in Turkey or elsewhere, the ability to put a state-of-the-art hospital just off the coast would be an absolute game-changer for Europe’s soft power.

    23. sourflavouronice on

      There is a proverb in Turkish:

      You don’t say “amen” to a prayer that won’t come true.

    24. Dundee? Don’t think that’s ever been a naval base. Rosyth would be more likely.

    25. minzhu0305 on

      The British will not agree to the establishment of a European army.

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