Le strade della Gran Bretagna saranno più strette per impedire ai conducenti di sorpassare i ciclisti
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/britains-roads-drivers-cyclists-b1258284.html
di tylerthe-theatre
Le strade della Gran Bretagna saranno più strette per impedire ai conducenti di sorpassare i ciclisti
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/britains-roads-drivers-cyclists-b1258284.html
di tylerthe-theatre
40 commenti
I feel like the sort of people who propose stuff like this have never driven a car in their life.
More likely because it’s less asphalt and the government can’t manage to maintain roads at their existing width.
I’d rather them just ban the giant canyonero cars that cause most of these problems.
>The guidance says narrower lanes would signal to drivers that there is not enough space to safely overtake cyclists, while encouraging cyclists to ride more centrally.
Yes, cyclists riding centrally won’t cause issues….
“Newly published government guidance says the long-standard 12ft lane width, used for nearly 150 years, is now considered unsuitable because of the safety risks it poses to cyclists.”
Anyone sensible would take this as a due to _widen_ new roads, not make them even narrower because let’s be realistic this will just make people squeeze even closer to bikes won’t it
Hope this results in pavements being widened. They’re comically narrow (or non-existent) across most of the country. Prioritise repaving them while you’re at it as they’re generally in terrible condition compared to roads.
So the article title should say “could be” instead of “to be”, as at this stage it has just been suggested in a report.
The report also suggests they should either be reduced or widened.
With cars being much wider and bigger than they used to be, isn’t the road already narrower by default anyway?
…or, make them wider to accommodate physically segregated cycle lanes? (So, wider still than the alternative greater width the report suggests as another means of protecting cyclists.)
In my experience it doesn’t matter how narrow the roads are – some motorists will go for the overtake anyway. And a lot of cyclists lack the confidence, knowledge or awareness to take a more central position in their lane when it would be beneficial.
Safer for all concerned to have physically separate lanes where possible.
In any case I’m sure this proposal will be a valuable contribution to the level-headed, good-natured debate Britain likes to have about cycling.
This sounds like a very London-centric policy by people who hate cars in urban spaces.
The majority of Britain isn’t like that.
Cars go faster than bicycles, they should be able to overtake, what an idiot take by an incompetent government
I feel like the law of unintended consequences is going to bite hard here with more mangled cyclists.
>Road lanes across Britain could become narrower in an effort to prevent cars overtaking cyclists, according to reports.
Headline says “to be”
Trash media.
I am a cyclist. If anything, roads should be made wider, so cars have more room to overtake, so they’re not so close to vulnerable road users.
They need to make them wider to accommodate the bell-ends in SUV’s….
I used to work in roads, 3.65m (12 ft) anes are basically motorway and trunk roads only.
Most roads fall under local council guidance which tends to go to 3.25m (10ft 8 ish) or 3m (10 ft) anyway so basically nothing is changing here.
Also any paper just giving units in imperial needs to fuck right off. They’ve had 25 years to figure this out
Surely a road by road analysis is better than some top down imposition. The road near me is odd. It goes from one lane flowing each way (relatively narrow) to a four-lane one way system within about 300 metres.
Already happening in Oxford. All of the side roads off of the Woodstock and Banbury roads have been narrowed and cycle lanes have been widened. Signs are already up warning cars, buses etc not to overtake cyclists on the Woodstock rd.
Narrower roads that give everyone less space will solve the problem of not having enough space!
ah the weekly lets blame cyclists for the world ills is back, i’ve missed it so much. Perhaps if 95% of the countries roads weren’t designed for anything wider that a mini or a austin allegro it might be a bit easier, but you know lets just let the car manufacturers make something the size of a tank and then worry about it.
Thank god none of us are now driving those massive 4x4s right
There must be an ulterior motive here.
The general feedback here is “If road is too narrow, widen it, don’t make it smaller”, but what if the intention here is to discourage driving completely by narrowing the road?
Its about time cyclists started paying serious road tax.
Will this be an *actual widespread* change to Britain’s roads, or is it simply political mischief making to cast the Labour government in a bad light??
Excellent idea to *checks notes* make roads more dangerous for everyone
Narrower lanes while all the cars are getting bigger… moronic proposal.
Sounds like it’ll also make it more difficult for cyclists to pass cars, and also as a motorcyclist that would suck for filtering
Great photo of the car over the line into the cycle lane.
…or, do what they do in the EU and add more cycle lanes (in addition to roads, not using existing road space) so cars never have to interact with bikes.
Also, did they consider buses, trucks and stupid SUVs?
Sneaking suspicion that this is just gonna have drivers being even more aggressive to cyclists. I know “not all drivers” and all that, but the % of folk who get insanely aggressive over an extra 5s in their commute in major cities is mindblowing.
This aill be unpopular but I don’t care :
Can we all just agree that cycling on main roads is mental and that roads should be for motor vehicles only ?
Why is cyclists paying road tax never talked about?
Cars are already too big for people to stay in lanes properly fs
Really? How many morons do they have in Westminster?
Honestly, there isn’t a functional brain cell in the entire fucking government!
And the result will be more cyclists injured/killed per year, and more fatal head-on collisions because most drivers can’t even keep within the lines of the current roads.
Cyclists would be better off driving in the middle of the lane, that they are entitled to, for safety
Time for an annual cycle licensing fee and insurance too.
I can’t see how minimising space is any good for cyclists. Motorists already see cyclists as second class citizens on the road and they will still bully them and try to pass them too closely. This will just make the problem worse. How about putting in planning conditions for proper separate cycle lanes and trying to educate drivers that cyclists also have as much right on the road as they do ?
I’ve just moved back to the UK, and I genuinely think the whole place has lost its mind
I’d love to know what the person who wrote the report said when their manager told them to include the stupid option of making it narrower when nobody in their right mind would ever do that.
Cars are bigger, sure, let’s make the roads narrower.
Haha what? Surely a more narrownroad would encourage some people to go over the cyclist.