Macron and Zelenskyy signed an agreement for Kyiv to acquire up to 100 Rafale fighters, SAMPT/NG air-defense systems, radars systems and drones,
600 AASM Hammer guided bomb will also get Delivered to the Ukrainian Forces.
bklor on
100 new Rafales and 100-150 Gripens. Ukraine does need that but I’m curious about financing.
SraminiElMejorBeaver on
8 samp/t ng too, with the contract over 10 years .
Other stuff are things like 600 hammer bombs, drones to intercept shahed/gliding bombs and those that travels up to 500km to destroy ennemy target so nothing really special still good to have.
Alert-Pickle590 on
So Ukraine want to acquire 100 Rafale and around 100-150 Gripen over a period of about ten years ?
That’s huge and very good for European military industry. Russian will be mad as usual but we have no reason to care about that.
The only question that i have now is how Ukraine will be able to finance this purchase. Will they use the russian asset in Europe ? Will they bet on a post-war boom ? Will they pay with drones production ?
krazydude22 on
Who is funding this ? France ? NATO ? EU ?
>The letter of intent, which is not a purchase and sales contract, is projected to be realised “over a timeframe of about 10 years”, the French presidency added.
What happens in 2027 and the next French President (Bardella(?)) decides to change this ?
TheoryOfDevolution on
I’m guessing the EU will finance this somehow.
pouetpouetcamion2 on
bon. en gros la france va payer des avions francais à l ukraine au détriment de sa propre société civile. c est au moins pas de l armement américain, mais en a t on les moyens?
VigorousElk on
Much like the proposed Gripen purchase these are purely letters of intent. For purchases far in the future that won’t affect the current war (or the current active phase of the war, if you define the war as starting in 2014).
Ukraine is entirely dependent on mostly European countries and the EU to keep its state apparatus and military running, with a GDP of about $200 bn. it has requested $60 bn. in foreign defence financing help for 2026 alone, and some sources estimate a total of $120 bn. needed next year in external funds.
No one knows how these big foreign purchases are supposed to be financed – everyone is dancing around the frozen Russian funds right now with no solution in sight (Belgium doesn’t want to touch them), and the existing financial pledges for next year are barely enough to keep the doors open in Ukraine.
Is the EU supposed to pay for the Gripen and Rafales? Are Sweden and France financing most of it? Is there going to be a ‘loan’ (with the clear expectation of that loan never going to be repaid in full given the financial realities of a post-war Ukraine)?
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Macron and Zelenskyy signed an agreement for Kyiv to acquire up to 100 Rafale fighters, SAMPT/NG air-defense systems, radars systems and drones,
600 AASM Hammer guided bomb will also get Delivered to the Ukrainian Forces.
100 new Rafales and 100-150 Gripens. Ukraine does need that but I’m curious about financing.
8 samp/t ng too, with the contract over 10 years .
Other stuff are things like 600 hammer bombs, drones to intercept shahed/gliding bombs and those that travels up to 500km to destroy ennemy target so nothing really special still good to have.
So Ukraine want to acquire 100 Rafale and around 100-150 Gripen over a period of about ten years ?
That’s huge and very good for European military industry. Russian will be mad as usual but we have no reason to care about that.
The only question that i have now is how Ukraine will be able to finance this purchase. Will they use the russian asset in Europe ? Will they bet on a post-war boom ? Will they pay with drones production ?
Who is funding this ? France ? NATO ? EU ?
>The letter of intent, which is not a purchase and sales contract, is projected to be realised “over a timeframe of about 10 years”, the French presidency added.
What happens in 2027 and the next French President (Bardella(?)) decides to change this ?
I’m guessing the EU will finance this somehow.
bon. en gros la france va payer des avions francais à l ukraine au détriment de sa propre société civile. c est au moins pas de l armement américain, mais en a t on les moyens?
Much like the proposed Gripen purchase these are purely letters of intent. For purchases far in the future that won’t affect the current war (or the current active phase of the war, if you define the war as starting in 2014).
Ukraine is entirely dependent on mostly European countries and the EU to keep its state apparatus and military running, with a GDP of about $200 bn. it has requested $60 bn. in foreign defence financing help for 2026 alone, and some sources estimate a total of $120 bn. needed next year in external funds.
No one knows how these big foreign purchases are supposed to be financed – everyone is dancing around the frozen Russian funds right now with no solution in sight (Belgium doesn’t want to touch them), and the existing financial pledges for next year are barely enough to keep the doors open in Ukraine.
Is the EU supposed to pay for the Gripen and Rafales? Are Sweden and France financing most of it? Is there going to be a ‘loan’ (with the clear expectation of that loan never going to be repaid in full given the financial realities of a post-war Ukraine)?