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Network Rail launches property company to build near stations and land
di TraditionalAppeal23
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Ah yes, more property speculation in Ireland. What could possibly go wrong?
Irish Rail has done this in Cork with [Horgan’s Quay](https://www.bam.com/en/press/press-releases/2017/9/plans-unveiled-for-prime-waterfront-site-at-horgans-quay-cork). All those new buildings were built on CIE owned landed under a 300 year lease. The next bit around there will involve the realignment of the rest of Horgans Quay to create a new [riverside district](https://consult.corkcity.ie/ga/consultation/cork-north-docks-public-realm-and-transport-infrastructure).
I do think there’s perhaps a role for the greater involement of the LDA in some projects. We have seen a bit of that with the new Woodbrook station in Dublin. Like the new Moyross station in Limerick has some fairly low density around it, it should be being advanced with the LDA more or less coming in and building some apartment blocks or similar. The LDA has got involved in fixing issue around Clongriffin as well.
Clonburris and some of the Adamstown stuff is similar in idea, TOD around stations, even if they’re a bit more privately delivered.
It’s not required, the LDA has the statuary responsibility to develop public lands and undertakes a biannual assessment of all public lands deemed non-strategic by the relevant state bodies, see link below.
Additionally, all state bodies looking to dispose of any land holding are required by law to offer the LDA a right of first refusal.
https://lda.ie/uploads/documents/Report-on-Relevant-Public-Land-2025.pdf
Just looking at nothing but the profit after tax for both, 515m profit for Network Rail vs a loss of 383m for Irish Rail. Pretty big gap in funds available to do anything like this
Pretty sure the LDA are already doing this. 1,100 social homes as well as lots of community facilities are being built right now at Cherry Orchard Point on lands that were a hodge podge of ownership between Dublin City Council, Irish Rail and Harcourt Developments.
The strange thing is that planning was granted, a bit like all the development further up the railway at Fonthill and Kishoge, that DART+ South West services would start and they’ve been delayed in the latest government funding round.
We actually have DART+ carriages being delivered now and it’s very possible that the areas that need them won’t get them.
There’s so many train stations in Dublin, Kildare, Louth, Meath and Wicklow which have nothing around them. The land around Hazelhatch and Celbridge for example isn’t even zoned. Land around Skerries, southern land around Adamstown, southern land around Hansfield, southern land around Clonsilla, north of Lexlip, loads of land around Sallins, etc, etc.
The train network is in many places positioned at a distance from towns that makes it an absolute pain in the balls to use and people just drive instead but on the bright side, there’s a huge opportunity to develop compact high density TOD settlements on greenfield sites with savage connectivity by rail.
This is happening already in Waterford via the council’s North Quays project.
Don’t moan, op is right.
Mail your TD and demand better instead of posting on Reddit about how crap everything is.
Should be done at all the level crossings in Dublin – Sandymount Avenue, Lansdowne Road, Serpentine Avenue, Sydney Parade, Strand Road … all underground (including stations where applicable) build apartment blocks overground on existing station sites to pay for it and eliminate the commuter congestion caused by level crossings and can increase frequency of DART services also. Given the locations they’d probably make a profit whilst improving facilities and services.
Worth noting that Network Rail and Iarnród Éireann perform different functions, Network Rail doesn’t make a loss
In Japan the train operators have built entire shopping complexes and apartment buildings around each station to the point where they are usually a go-to destination for good food and groceries.
Its been shown that they make vastly more money from the rent than from trains. Yet they still invest heavily in the trains because it means they can transport even more people to their shopping centres.
This is what Irish Rail should be doing.
Remember the crowd that were offering to build the airport metro essentially for free, in exchange for the right to develop the land over the stations? That was back in the celtic tiger days IIRC.