1.7B$ is steep but air defense is one of those things you only miss when you don’t have it
Key_Duck_6293 on
Loan it to Ukraine, they actually need it
its_aom on
I was talking about how the Spanish low dependence on the USA was helping the country having the most thriving economy among the big ones in Europe. Well, ok then
All these defence systems are great, but I am worried that all we seem to do is buy/build defensive capability. If you want to defeat Russia if they attack, you need to be able to destroy their oil infrastructure and logistics on day one of the war. That would take, for the EU as a whole thousands to tens of thousands longrange cruise missiles, whether ground-, air- or sealaunched. Do we have those? To deter Russia, it would be good if we could show that kind of capability. They need their oilfields, refineries and terminals. They need their railwaybridges, their munitionsfactories, their military airfields. Europe needs to be able to destroy them if Russia ever becomes crazy enough to attack.
D00M1R4 on
I mean nice to have, but if somethings reaches spain through air we have some other problems no?
OkDifficulty7436 on
Good shit! Congrats Spain!
Agusfn on
US surely be making money with all this
Baset-tissoult28 on
What are they aiming at?
Ibiza tourists?
RumHam69_ on
Hope Europe will invest more in SAMP/T in the future, we can’t let the dependence on the US grow even more.
ulyssebyob on
Before anyone comments on Patriot not being EU products, it’s important to understand that procurement takes years and as much as I would have loved for Spain to buy SAMP/T instead, it does not go against what was recently decided by the EU in its SAFE funding program.
AttitudeSimilar9347 on
A very bad decision IMHO. They should have joined the SAMP/T consortium with France and Italy and been part of the European effort in AD. The UK should have joined it as well, we already operate Aster missiles in the Royal Navy, the skills and experience are there. There is still time I hope.
Diet6000 on
Will those end in Ukraine?
prince2lu on
US harware again… great job Spain…
GongTzu on
Ffs. It’s time to untie EU from the US, this is not the right way.
Mammoth_Meet_9313 on
Threats from Andora should be taken seriously.
Equivalent_Plan_5653 on
Pouring more money into your enemy’s economy. Thank you Spain for undermining Europe a little bit more.
ReplyResponsible2228 on
I still dont understand why Spain has not given Ukraine any Patriot systems considering how low the danger is to them
mpanase on
This might be the price to pay for not spending 5% ?
Gotta buy some yankee stuff?
pkk888 on
Buuh! Why American? Dont put any money there.
GurCompetitive7633 on
The fuck they need them for?
Inevitable_Spare_777 on
Anyone who wants to comment on sourcing domestically in Europe should understand the shortfalls of the SAMP/T.
Simply put, there are roughly 5X the amount of Patriot interceptors produced each year. Currently, only 2-300 SAMP/T are produced annually. That’s roughly 1/5 the amount of long-range missiles Russia can produce.
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1.7B$ is steep but air defense is one of those things you only miss when you don’t have it
Loan it to Ukraine, they actually need it
I was talking about how the Spanish low dependence on the USA was helping the country having the most thriving economy among the big ones in Europe. Well, ok then
[Read before letting a fact offend you](https://www.oecd.org/en/publications/oecd-economic-surveys-spain-2025_abc5c435-en.html)
All these defence systems are great, but I am worried that all we seem to do is buy/build defensive capability. If you want to defeat Russia if they attack, you need to be able to destroy their oil infrastructure and logistics on day one of the war. That would take, for the EU as a whole thousands to tens of thousands longrange cruise missiles, whether ground-, air- or sealaunched. Do we have those? To deter Russia, it would be good if we could show that kind of capability. They need their oilfields, refineries and terminals. They need their railwaybridges, their munitionsfactories, their military airfields. Europe needs to be able to destroy them if Russia ever becomes crazy enough to attack.
I mean nice to have, but if somethings reaches spain through air we have some other problems no?
Good shit! Congrats Spain!
US surely be making money with all this
What are they aiming at?
Ibiza tourists?
Hope Europe will invest more in SAMP/T in the future, we can’t let the dependence on the US grow even more.
Before anyone comments on Patriot not being EU products, it’s important to understand that procurement takes years and as much as I would have loved for Spain to buy SAMP/T instead, it does not go against what was recently decided by the EU in its SAFE funding program.
A very bad decision IMHO. They should have joined the SAMP/T consortium with France and Italy and been part of the European effort in AD. The UK should have joined it as well, we already operate Aster missiles in the Royal Navy, the skills and experience are there. There is still time I hope.
Will those end in Ukraine?
US harware again… great job Spain…
Ffs. It’s time to untie EU from the US, this is not the right way.
Threats from Andora should be taken seriously.
Pouring more money into your enemy’s economy. Thank you Spain for undermining Europe a little bit more.
I still dont understand why Spain has not given Ukraine any Patriot systems considering how low the danger is to them
This might be the price to pay for not spending 5% ?
Gotta buy some yankee stuff?
Buuh! Why American? Dont put any money there.
The fuck they need them for?
Anyone who wants to comment on sourcing domestically in Europe should understand the shortfalls of the SAMP/T.
https://cepa.org/article/dimmed-the-rockets-red-glare/
Simply put, there are roughly 5X the amount of Patriot interceptors produced each year. Currently, only 2-300 SAMP/T are produced annually. That’s roughly 1/5 the amount of long-range missiles Russia can produce.