If you go back to 2010-11 we had articles complaining that Irish Rail had excess capacity.
Ireland does boom-bust economics and has no flexibility due to building in no extra capacity, consistently forecasting lower than growth rates, weird railway specs, so when stock runs short when isn’t anything until new trains are built. There aren’t any leasing possibilities – generally just a mess of bad planning and island mentality specs.
champagneface on
Lot of valid complaints and concerns in here but this made me laugh:
A woman from Dublin said she logged a complaint to Irish Rail just last week after using a train service so full she feared she would get lice from standing so close to others. She also believes the situation makes people vulnerable to pick-pocketers.
BazingaQQ on
And yet sone idiiot businesses STILL insist on dragging people into offices when they could just as eadily work remotely.
Morons.
1reallyhatemondays on
Joke of a service. Needs to be like the luas where irish rail need to earn the service to operate every 7 years as they are not showing value for investment.
Constantly broken trains, broken timetables and filthy stations.
Guilty_Garden_3669 on
Try the tube 🤣
karolaug on
I saw today the article about proposal to introduce congestion charging. Wondering why supporters of that charge are not calling to introduce it for the public transport? Like a tenner per person extra charge if you travelling in peak hours. It will have exactly the same effect: fixing the symptom, not the problem which is lack of infrastructure, both road/Park and go and public transport.
Legitimate_Bag8259 on
I was on a train in Ireland twice. It was Dundalk to Belfast for a lecture amd the return journey. That was 14 years ago. It was a nice enough journey.
I’d imagine things are quite different now. I’d also imagine location has a big impact.
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FingalForever on
Never had a problem or concern with commuting by train – except for the threat to extend the DART northwards.
lumpymonkey on
People in this article are being very dramatic. I take the Rosslare commuter 3 days per week and it’s rarely as bad as it’s being made out to be here. Yes you are likely going to be standing from Wicklow Town but it’s not that bad. People getting on at Greystones and Bray could take the DART instead of they’re that concerned about having a seat. Not defending Irish Rail here of course the service could be better but the statements here make it sound like something you’d see in India. I do wonder why they don’t put on one extra Rosslare service between the 2 early ones though, it would solve a lot of this capacity problem I think.Â
great_whitehope on
I used the commuter line from Maynooth 20 years ago now and I swear it was packed to the doors then and they were promising it would be a dart in a few years.
Coranco on
Speaking for the DART only and not other commuter centers or their trains the service has been visibly terrible in the last 2 years, especially with the abortive timetable/Connolly northbound change which was recently reversed. Prime example is Connolly station. There’s a fella on the tannoy every 5 minutes shouting/mumbling platform changes and advising passengers which train on which platform is going where. It’s utter chaos.
If you can’t even hold together a common timetable through the most central and busiest station in the city with an automated timeboard and are manually calling changes constantly you’ve instantly failed at what you’re trying to do. Then there’s issues of robustness on the line where one locomotive failure will fuck the whole system causing insane levels of knock on issues. As well as other nonsense implementations such as 4-5 carriage DARTs running at peak times etc which couldn’t even take an out of hours capacity at the best of times.
There is also no political appetite to just do the required work when needed. 2 lines north/south at points is no longer fit for purpose you need additional lines for overtaking redundancy or whatever…then just bite the fucking bullet and make the enhancements. No point in just wringing your hands saying it’ll be too expensive too disruptive and carrying on with a line that is not longer fit for purpose. Anything south of Bray, like how is it ever to function as a true robust rail corridor if it’s a single line to Wexford…Plenty of countries in the world work through similar enhancements in regions prone to far more instability think earthquakes, landslides and Tsunami’s.
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If you go back to 2010-11 we had articles complaining that Irish Rail had excess capacity.
Ireland does boom-bust economics and has no flexibility due to building in no extra capacity, consistently forecasting lower than growth rates, weird railway specs, so when stock runs short when isn’t anything until new trains are built. There aren’t any leasing possibilities – generally just a mess of bad planning and island mentality specs.
Lot of valid complaints and concerns in here but this made me laugh:
A woman from Dublin said she logged a complaint to Irish Rail just last week after using a train service so full she feared she would get lice from standing so close to others. She also believes the situation makes people vulnerable to pick-pocketers.
And yet sone idiiot businesses STILL insist on dragging people into offices when they could just as eadily work remotely.
Morons.
Joke of a service. Needs to be like the luas where irish rail need to earn the service to operate every 7 years as they are not showing value for investment.
Constantly broken trains, broken timetables and filthy stations.
Try the tube 🤣
I saw today the article about proposal to introduce congestion charging. Wondering why supporters of that charge are not calling to introduce it for the public transport? Like a tenner per person extra charge if you travelling in peak hours. It will have exactly the same effect: fixing the symptom, not the problem which is lack of infrastructure, both road/Park and go and public transport.
I was on a train in Ireland twice. It was Dundalk to Belfast for a lecture amd the return journey. That was 14 years ago. It was a nice enough journey.
I’d imagine things are quite different now. I’d also imagine location has a big impact.
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Never had a problem or concern with commuting by train – except for the threat to extend the DART northwards.
People in this article are being very dramatic. I take the Rosslare commuter 3 days per week and it’s rarely as bad as it’s being made out to be here. Yes you are likely going to be standing from Wicklow Town but it’s not that bad. People getting on at Greystones and Bray could take the DART instead of they’re that concerned about having a seat. Not defending Irish Rail here of course the service could be better but the statements here make it sound like something you’d see in India. I do wonder why they don’t put on one extra Rosslare service between the 2 early ones though, it would solve a lot of this capacity problem I think.Â
I used the commuter line from Maynooth 20 years ago now and I swear it was packed to the doors then and they were promising it would be a dart in a few years.
Speaking for the DART only and not other commuter centers or their trains the service has been visibly terrible in the last 2 years, especially with the abortive timetable/Connolly northbound change which was recently reversed. Prime example is Connolly station. There’s a fella on the tannoy every 5 minutes shouting/mumbling platform changes and advising passengers which train on which platform is going where. It’s utter chaos.
If you can’t even hold together a common timetable through the most central and busiest station in the city with an automated timeboard and are manually calling changes constantly you’ve instantly failed at what you’re trying to do. Then there’s issues of robustness on the line where one locomotive failure will fuck the whole system causing insane levels of knock on issues. As well as other nonsense implementations such as 4-5 carriage DARTs running at peak times etc which couldn’t even take an out of hours capacity at the best of times.
There is also no political appetite to just do the required work when needed. 2 lines north/south at points is no longer fit for purpose you need additional lines for overtaking redundancy or whatever…then just bite the fucking bullet and make the enhancements. No point in just wringing your hands saying it’ll be too expensive too disruptive and carrying on with a line that is not longer fit for purpose. Anything south of Bray, like how is it ever to function as a true robust rail corridor if it’s a single line to Wexford…Plenty of countries in the world work through similar enhancements in regions prone to far more instability think earthquakes, landslides and Tsunami’s.