
Russia: non accetteremo il piano di pace di Trump “mentre Zelensky è al potere”
https://www.thetimes.com/world/russia-ukraine-war/article/kremlin-rejects-trumps-peace-plan-after-oil-sanctions-threat-zjwv6r8wm?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Reddit#Echobox=1743538444
di TimesandSundayTimes
46 commenti
And Ukraine has already confirmed that there will be no elections until there is a peace deal.
I guess Trump will have to be *very* annoyed at Russia then.
Or, far more probably, immediately blame Ukraine and cut off all aid.
I bet Zelensky outlasts Putin
Stop Putin, now, by force.
Anything else is wasting time, money, and lives.
And guess what, they’ll not accept a peace plan if Zelensky is not in power
Redundant…
It almost is implicit support for Ukraine… by Putin. Effectively Putin is refusing the ~~Extortion~~ ”’Peace🤮”’ plan together with Zelensky taking a lot of pressure off of Zelensky.
It is like Putin telling Trump *”Keep your hands of Zelensky! He is mine to take to my new Gulags”*
I guess this was the plan from the begining.
Now russia shit their bed!
Crazy that you can start a war, and try to dictate how to end it.
Of course there’s some excuse smh.
It really means “Russia doesn’t want peace”
Russia can’t be trusted on any peace plan regardless.
I get the idea that Putin’s really getting off seeing how far he can shove it down Trump‘s throat.
Just the thought of having to look zelenskyy in the eye and acknowledge him as the guy who foiled his plans is too much for him. What I wouldn’t give to see the two of them in the same room together.
Moving goalposts. As is the way.
This is an affront on Ukraine’s sovereignty. It’s not up to the Kremlin, and voting in another leader is impossible. It’s impossible legally, given martial law, and also logistically, given that so many towns are occupied.
This is tactic. Ukraine would have to recognize Putin’s wishes for Zelenskiy to step down and acknowledge lost regions that cannot vote.
Ridiculous.
The US has made the situation far worse and less safe for Ukraine…at the expense of Ukraine…every time i read an update about this war i feel like ww3 is getting closer and closer …i feel that the UK are rapidly being left behind by eastern block of the new Japan Korea and China free trade deal agreement ..US is just a whole issue on their own …and the EU who for some reason still want to punish the UK over fucking fish !!! Ww3 is literally around the corner and Europe is still squabbling..without a trade block ..or defence treaty alliance..one that isn’t connected to the US ..we are just fish in barrel
Ok he’s just dragging this shit on, he doesn’t care to let his men keep dying, and for sure Trump got played .
And Ukraine won’t accept peace plan with Putin in power?
He won’t accept any peace plan, period, but he would be overjoyed if the Ukrainian government fell apart right about now, so that’s the angle he’s approaching from on the American Front.
Uno Reverse Card right back at you.
Because!!!!!! Rus. Wants to install another puppet!
So they want Zelenskyy gone *and* Luhansk, Donetsk, Odesa, Mykolaiv, Zaporizhzhia and Crimea oblasts.. I wouldn’t give an inch. But Zelenskyy has said he would step down if needed (?)
Trump in his infinite wisdom probably suggesting Yanukovych 🙄
Of the three main players in this triangle, the only one that negotiates in good faith is Ukraine.
The USA will continuously move the goalposts, and so will the Russians, and even if by some miracle a deal is done, neither can be trusted to abide by it.
Pathetic Poostain scared of our hero Zelensky, just the way it should be.
Cold war was a scam, America musta been in cahoots with the USSR to be this nice to a KGB officer and not be a part of the fight
How about Putin step down as a requirement for peace? Why do they think they can dictate who leads other countries?
Just bullshit reason number 64.674,40.
Zelensky is effective, insightful, reasonable. Cannot have that.
Russia refusing to solve the problem which it ALONE created.
Said the guy who already has millions of people blood on his hands! 😡🤮
Putin and Trump want a Putin loving lackey… Someone to hand the country over to Russia, Ukraine can’t have Nukes, can’t join NATO and can’t be part of the EU. All mineral wealth is taken by Putin and Trump. Of course they want Zelenskyy out.
That headline just reeks of ‘hey trump cuck, help us take out Zelenskyy and we can get down to business’
But muh 72 hours…
So that means Ukraine can deny any peace plan while putin is in power as well?
Ah, so that’s the plan. Any day now Trump will say we have to remove Zelensky in order to make peace. Gotcha
Putin will accepts the peace plan when he’s in power in Russia, USA and Ukraine, one left, please hold!
Good, cause we wont accept peace plans while Putin is breathing.
Russia doesn’t want peace. Fuck Terrorist Russia.
Even if Zelensky is out of power they won’t accept no plan until they get all Ukraine lol
They have no interest in peace in Ukraine and are not operating in good faith. Their goal is to subjugate Ukraine and brutally steamroll across smaller neighbouring nations for a glorified return to the days of a greater imperialistic Russia with vassal states and a larger sphere of interest.
Ukraine stands firm against this 19th-century might-is-right ethos. And Europe needs to continue arming and providing intelligence to these defenders of Europe’s democratic values.
Democracy is something you fight to get, and fight to keep.
Trump/Fox tomorrow: Zelensky has to go. He’s a Dictator standing in the way of peace!
Putin is an evil pos. He deserves every bad thing that may come his way for all eternity.
Ukraine’s constitution says no. President says no. Opposition says no. End of subject.
He won’t accept it afterward either.
Putin is so triggered by Zelensky, he’s his kryptonite or something
Putin is such a bitch. He acts as if Zelensky was the aggressor. They just want to install a Russian puppet so they can claim victory. Fuck Russia.
So much political dancing around a simple truth: Putin wants to continue the war and since he is the aggressor, the defender will naturally also continue to fight. End of the story. There is no miracle “deal” to be had where Putin withdraws without Ukraine selling it’s sovereignty and future. The faster Europe puts troops in Ukraine, the faster Putin will be open for actual peace, because only when his opportunities have diminished and the outlook is hopeless for Russia, will Putin consider peace. Appeasing dictators doesn’t work!