And before the war, all of what comprised said “us” was fighting like crazy all the time. He might’ve been right about US policies benefiting primarily the US, but it was actually worse before the war as there was barely any cooperation. France surrendered in same war to a European power within days. Not like before US influence it was all harmonious.
Gurkanna on
Just proof that even a blind chicken can find a grain.
Beneficial-Space3019 on
“January 4” written by an American. Pretty much any European would have written “4 January”.
shitnotalkforyours18 on
He predicted the future..and now we are living in it
Typingman on
They make Europe a protectorate then blame Europe for taking advantage of them.
NoWingedHussarsToday on
He was also right about British membership in EEC……..
Mai_maniac on
It’s always good to know your history and listen to warnings. The world can, and is, changing fast.
butwhywedothis on
America: From the land of the free and home of the brave to the land of the dumbs and home of the cunts.
nautik4 on
oh stfu europe enjoy building your military again 😒hopefully you don’t start ww3 now that you’re no longer in it 🤣
Appropriate-Ad-3219 on
Honestly, I really don’t like seeing things as domination/being dominated only. Maybe I’m wrong, but wasn’t it cooperation too ?
Of course, there’s no doubt it’s Trump’s view, and I think we shouldn’t let the US trample on us.
Op_Vox on
There’s only a way out in Europe is to trash with modernism, embrace Christianity once again for it has been what made Europe great and prosperous.
bigkoi on
LBJ also reminded him of the 70k American graves on French soil, to which he had no response but to agree.
Shadow0fAnubis on
I mean France has been warning EU a long time ago, even Macron was the first one to face Trump’s chauvinism and suggest to establish a European new NATO with no USA, and non of the European leaders listened to him, Europe need to let France to led the union and sideline Germany
mosterodoni on
Well, at least Europe received some money and was treated as a partner for several decades. Subjugation is the treatment that Latin America receives
Long-Maize-9305 on
A man who came to relevance because the Americans bailed him and his country out then spent his entire career whinging about the manner in which they did it.
Europe has become second tier to America because it kept tearing itself apart and since then has stagnated. It’s become old, it’s state spending is bloated, it’s economy hasn’t grown in decades and it’s dependent on foreign powers for it’s energy needs.
The fundamental problem with this new outburst of Gaullist outrage is that Europe still persists in the delusion that it became a second tier power out of choice.
sansisness_101 on
De Gaulle was never pro-europe, only pro-france.
KetBanger45 on
Charles de Based
wanderduene02 on
What he didn’t foresee, however, was that the dominant power would become furious that we dared to submit to its protectorate, and then freak out and tell us to take care of ourselves.
VLamperouge on
Yeah, but don’t forget that De Gaulle was against and blocked all attempts at further European political integration during his administration, just look at the Luxembourg Compromise (which De Gaulle requested) with the introduction of the veto power and unanimous decision in the Council, which stalled the EEC decision making for years.
Famous_Equal5879 on
He is 100% correct!!!!
UNSKIALz on
I wouldn’t say anything was imposed. The outcome was mutually beneficial and allowed Europe to disarm, build welfare states and so on.
Trump has changed that though. America will lose their power and Europe our peace dividend.
flyiingduck on
CDeG was world’s first influencer.
TwistedReach7 on
He was not wrong, but it’s far more complex than this. Europe enjoyed the uprights of being sheltered by the american army and our economies grew incredibly until the first oil shock. Europe had simply abandoned its global power position and decided to follow the prosperity route, mantaining alive the illusion of nations; it can work as long as the US is on our side and they’re actually the global leader, but the decrease of american presence around the globe (due shale oil and gas being found in the US’ territory) and the economical surge of China have deeply changed the world’s order.
De Gaulle is and was part of the main problem (he was against the federation): european leaders not thinking globally
EU_FreeWorld on
There’s no american base in France since 1966. You can also thanks him for what he effectively did.
Aggressive-Tomato-27 on
And at the same time he didn’t want to have a European defence alliance, without the US…
Possible_Moose1893 on
No wonder A shity airport named after him!
New-Score-5199 on
“Europe is USA puppet” was element Russian propaganda for literally decades. Just a curious fact.
Ready-Cricket4680 on
Europeans are willing victims.
FitSolution2882 on
Yeah but fishing rights are more important
CrimsonTightwad on
De Gaulle in Indochina War (Vietnam) to America – please nuke Dien Bien Phu to save us or at least help us keep Algeria.
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And before the war, all of what comprised said “us” was fighting like crazy all the time. He might’ve been right about US policies benefiting primarily the US, but it was actually worse before the war as there was barely any cooperation. France surrendered in same war to a European power within days. Not like before US influence it was all harmonious.
Just proof that even a blind chicken can find a grain.
“January 4” written by an American. Pretty much any European would have written “4 January”.
He predicted the future..and now we are living in it
They make Europe a protectorate then blame Europe for taking advantage of them.
He was also right about British membership in EEC……..
It’s always good to know your history and listen to warnings. The world can, and is, changing fast.
America: From the land of the free and home of the brave to the land of the dumbs and home of the cunts.
oh stfu europe enjoy building your military again 😒hopefully you don’t start ww3 now that you’re no longer in it 🤣
Honestly, I really don’t like seeing things as domination/being dominated only. Maybe I’m wrong, but wasn’t it cooperation too ?
Of course, there’s no doubt it’s Trump’s view, and I think we shouldn’t let the US trample on us.
There’s only a way out in Europe is to trash with modernism, embrace Christianity once again for it has been what made Europe great and prosperous.
LBJ also reminded him of the 70k American graves on French soil, to which he had no response but to agree.
I mean France has been warning EU a long time ago, even Macron was the first one to face Trump’s chauvinism and suggest to establish a European new NATO with no USA, and non of the European leaders listened to him, Europe need to let France to led the union and sideline Germany
Well, at least Europe received some money and was treated as a partner for several decades. Subjugation is the treatment that Latin America receives
A man who came to relevance because the Americans bailed him and his country out then spent his entire career whinging about the manner in which they did it.
Europe has become second tier to America because it kept tearing itself apart and since then has stagnated. It’s become old, it’s state spending is bloated, it’s economy hasn’t grown in decades and it’s dependent on foreign powers for it’s energy needs.
The fundamental problem with this new outburst of Gaullist outrage is that Europe still persists in the delusion that it became a second tier power out of choice.
De Gaulle was never pro-europe, only pro-france.
Charles de Based
What he didn’t foresee, however, was that the dominant power would become furious that we dared to submit to its protectorate, and then freak out and tell us to take care of ourselves.
Yeah, but don’t forget that De Gaulle was against and blocked all attempts at further European political integration during his administration, just look at the Luxembourg Compromise (which De Gaulle requested) with the introduction of the veto power and unanimous decision in the Council, which stalled the EEC decision making for years.
He is 100% correct!!!!
I wouldn’t say anything was imposed. The outcome was mutually beneficial and allowed Europe to disarm, build welfare states and so on.
Trump has changed that though. America will lose their power and Europe our peace dividend.
CDeG was world’s first influencer.
He was not wrong, but it’s far more complex than this. Europe enjoyed the uprights of being sheltered by the american army and our economies grew incredibly until the first oil shock. Europe had simply abandoned its global power position and decided to follow the prosperity route, mantaining alive the illusion of nations; it can work as long as the US is on our side and they’re actually the global leader, but the decrease of american presence around the globe (due shale oil and gas being found in the US’ territory) and the economical surge of China have deeply changed the world’s order.
De Gaulle is and was part of the main problem (he was against the federation): european leaders not thinking globally
There’s no american base in France since 1966. You can also thanks him for what he effectively did.
And at the same time he didn’t want to have a European defence alliance, without the US…
No wonder A shity airport named after him!
“Europe is USA puppet” was element Russian propaganda for literally decades. Just a curious fact.
Europeans are willing victims.
Yeah but fishing rights are more important
De Gaulle in Indochina War (Vietnam) to America – please nuke Dien Bien Phu to save us or at least help us keep Algeria.
America – No.