I see, more grifting from taxpayer-funded fancy job titles.
the_englishman on
I can’t believe this is where a council is choosing to spend resources. With all the issues we’re facing, crumbling roads, bins not being collected on time, cuts to essential services, and rising council tax, they somehow think this is a priority?
Even there argument is flawed. *’Cllr Frost warned that decisions affecting Cornwall are too often made in Westminster without Cornish voices at the table’,* you mean with the exception of the 6 Cornish MPs who sit in parliament? How exactly does this guy thinks a parliamentary democracy works?
Responsible_Loss8246 on
You can’t build an economy on overpriced hotels and pasties I’m afraid.
WaddlesLament on
So they’ll naturally not want any financial assistance from the UK government and with the high employment they enjoy in Cornwall (cough) and all of their diverse businesses and revenue streams outside of seasonal tourism I’m sure they’ll be a hugely beneficial fifth nation to the rest of the UK
dominion_is_great on
Honestly, I think this is fine? If Scotland and Wales can be recognised as nations then this is consistent. It would make a bit more sense if England also had a devolved parliament though.
I’d rather there was no devolution at all, but given that there is some devolution, it may as well be consistent.
Krabsandwich on
Well devolution has been a storming success elsewhere in the UK look at the incredible work the SNP has done in Scotland….. oh hang on a Sec
Sea-Caterpillar-255 on
We need to go to a flat per person funding model and then places can be nation’s or areas or whatever they want and funding will be fair and efficient.
Cubiscus on
Wasting taxpayer money aside if there were to be a fifth nation we’d more likely start with Wessex, East Anglia, Northumbria etc.
MidlandPark on
Nothing wrong with this, but as always, people will moan about this while also complaining that the current system doesn’t work
John_Williams_1977 on
More red tape.
Another level of bureaucrats.
If every road had a mayor, think how local voices would be heard!
…yeah, and think of the cost.
chronicnerv on
My uncle lives in Cornwall and is one of the harbour masters there. It’s facing the same problems as the rest of the UK but arguably worse when it comes to housing and jobs. It’s a stunning, quiet place, still full of old locals, but this is likely the last generation who’ll actually be able to live there. Once the older generation passes, their kids won’t be able to afford to stay. The homes will just go to corporate buyers and millionaires.
The flag and the push for recognition have been around for decades, but let’s be honest, does anyone really believe the current government would willingly hand over any real status or power?
Cornwallian68 on
Not this shit again. As Cornwall born the county is unrecognisable with blow ins – not necessarily a bad thing but let’s not all get misty eyed about the uniqueness of the Cornish – it’s bollocks.
Ninereedss on
Never going to happen. Focus on something productive.
BurnsideSven on
Well, London should be it’s own country with how it runs. I’d like to propose we rename it district 1
I also declare my house must be recognised as the UK’s fifth country as forstegland
Significant-Study476 on
Okay fine, no more taxpayers money. Good luck funding everything.
BlueSky86010 on
I’m Cornish. This is a joke.. always talking about independence, imagine if they decided to cut off funding to Cornwall and had to be self sufficient.. would be fucked. Moved out now, I would say this attitude is not present in the majority of people just the really backwards areas. But of course they all have a voice 😵💫
Antique_Historian_74 on
I say the rest of Britain should vote to recognise Devon as the fifth nation in the union.
Unable_Character2410 on
Ah that’s exactly what the UK needs. More instability. Good thing the UK economy is rock solid…oh, wait…
londons_explorer on
England, Scotland, Wales…???
Who is number 4? Jersey? The Isle of Man?
EconomyLingonberry63 on
It was its own kingdom once, but I don’t think we should as it’ll get complicated, we gonna bring back all the old countries? Be wanting independence next
marshy266 on
More separatist “we’re so different to everybody else” nonsense. It’s always the same crap
Lower_Ad_1317 on
This is starting to remind me of solar cycles.
*“Every few years Cornwall tries to…”*
blondie1024 on
Councillor Dick Cole who brought the motion forward
>currently serving as an elected member of Cornwall Council and the leader of the **Cornish devolutionist political party**, Mebyon Kernow, a role he has held since 1997.
From his Wiki.
That explains it all.
What a…Dick ‘Ole.
PbJax on
Yes ok Cornwall, time for your medicine. That’s it Cornwall, good Cornwall.
Anyway…
Intergalatic_Baker on
Just because Labour’s devolving the gaff, don’t expect them to listen on this.
Indiana_harris on
I’m all for this.
Unlike many other areas of England Cornwall in particular has a distinct culture, ethnicity and even some language factors that put it if not quite on par with the distinctions that Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales, then not far behind.
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I see, more grifting from taxpayer-funded fancy job titles.
I can’t believe this is where a council is choosing to spend resources. With all the issues we’re facing, crumbling roads, bins not being collected on time, cuts to essential services, and rising council tax, they somehow think this is a priority?
Even there argument is flawed. *’Cllr Frost warned that decisions affecting Cornwall are too often made in Westminster without Cornish voices at the table’,* you mean with the exception of the 6 Cornish MPs who sit in parliament? How exactly does this guy thinks a parliamentary democracy works?
You can’t build an economy on overpriced hotels and pasties I’m afraid.
So they’ll naturally not want any financial assistance from the UK government and with the high employment they enjoy in Cornwall (cough) and all of their diverse businesses and revenue streams outside of seasonal tourism I’m sure they’ll be a hugely beneficial fifth nation to the rest of the UK
Honestly, I think this is fine? If Scotland and Wales can be recognised as nations then this is consistent. It would make a bit more sense if England also had a devolved parliament though.
I’d rather there was no devolution at all, but given that there is some devolution, it may as well be consistent.
Well devolution has been a storming success elsewhere in the UK look at the incredible work the SNP has done in Scotland….. oh hang on a Sec
We need to go to a flat per person funding model and then places can be nation’s or areas or whatever they want and funding will be fair and efficient.
Wasting taxpayer money aside if there were to be a fifth nation we’d more likely start with Wessex, East Anglia, Northumbria etc.
Nothing wrong with this, but as always, people will moan about this while also complaining that the current system doesn’t work
More red tape.
Another level of bureaucrats.
If every road had a mayor, think how local voices would be heard!
…yeah, and think of the cost.
My uncle lives in Cornwall and is one of the harbour masters there. It’s facing the same problems as the rest of the UK but arguably worse when it comes to housing and jobs. It’s a stunning, quiet place, still full of old locals, but this is likely the last generation who’ll actually be able to live there. Once the older generation passes, their kids won’t be able to afford to stay. The homes will just go to corporate buyers and millionaires.
The flag and the push for recognition have been around for decades, but let’s be honest, does anyone really believe the current government would willingly hand over any real status or power?
Not this shit again. As Cornwall born the county is unrecognisable with blow ins – not necessarily a bad thing but let’s not all get misty eyed about the uniqueness of the Cornish – it’s bollocks.
Never going to happen. Focus on something productive.
Well, London should be it’s own country with how it runs. I’d like to propose we rename it district 1
Hellyeah!
I like Mark Drakeford’s idea of a [Federal UK](https://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/24087535.mark-drakeford-speaks-welsh-independence-report/).
You know who else agreed? [Winston Bloody Churchill](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalism_in_the_United_Kingdom#Federation_proposals) who proposed it in *1912* as MP for Dundee!
I also declare my house must be recognised as the UK’s fifth country as forstegland
Okay fine, no more taxpayers money. Good luck funding everything.
I’m Cornish. This is a joke.. always talking about independence, imagine if they decided to cut off funding to Cornwall and had to be self sufficient.. would be fucked. Moved out now, I would say this attitude is not present in the majority of people just the really backwards areas. But of course they all have a voice 😵💫
I say the rest of Britain should vote to recognise Devon as the fifth nation in the union.
Ah that’s exactly what the UK needs. More instability. Good thing the UK economy is rock solid…oh, wait…
England, Scotland, Wales…???
Who is number 4? Jersey? The Isle of Man?
It was its own kingdom once, but I don’t think we should as it’ll get complicated, we gonna bring back all the old countries? Be wanting independence next
More separatist “we’re so different to everybody else” nonsense. It’s always the same crap
This is starting to remind me of solar cycles.
*“Every few years Cornwall tries to…”*
Councillor Dick Cole who brought the motion forward
>currently serving as an elected member of Cornwall Council and the leader of the **Cornish devolutionist political party**, Mebyon Kernow, a role he has held since 1997.
From his Wiki.
That explains it all.
What a…Dick ‘Ole.
Yes ok Cornwall, time for your medicine. That’s it Cornwall, good Cornwall.
Anyway…
Just because Labour’s devolving the gaff, don’t expect them to listen on this.
I’m all for this.
Unlike many other areas of England Cornwall in particular has a distinct culture, ethnicity and even some language factors that put it if not quite on par with the distinctions that Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales, then not far behind.