Ciao ragazzi.
Sono venuto qui in Grecia per un soggiorno di residenza permanente.
In quanto cittadino extracomunitario, sono obbligato a cambiare la mia patente di guida in quella locale (greca). So che potrebbero essere convertite, ma viaggio molto e la mia ultima patente è stata rilasciata in un paese che non ha questo accordo reciproco con l’UE. Ho già controllato, non è possibile. Quindi mi sono iscritto all’autoscuola per fare la nuova patente qui in Grecia.
Guidando da 21 anni (da 18 anni) in tutto il mondo con quasi zero incidenti. Ora passo ai test di teoria della guida.
Ora passo alla parte teorica del test. Confuso su questo. Guidavo molto in Germania. Ci sono molti cerchi. La cosa principale che tengo in mente è stata "le auto in cerchio hanno la priorità, quando entro in cerchio guardo a sinistra. Se ci sono macchine, aspetto che passino prima di entrare. Sapevo che qui ad Atene ci sono molti ambienti che non sono così. All’inizio era insolito, ma non mi ha mai confuso, perché poi ci sono segnali che richiedono di dare la precedenza alle auto che entrano in circolo, e va bene. Guardare i segnali e seguirli.
ORA, per l’amor di Dio, indicami dove sono confuso con questa domanda del test d’esame? Ero sicuro che quello che vedo qui nell’immagine è: la bicicletta (3) sta già guidando verso il cerchio, due auto (1 e 2) stanno per entrare nel cerchio. Letteralmente non ci sono ancora. Ed ero sicuro che la risposta fosse: "I veicoli 1 e 2 (automobili) devono attendere il passaggio del veicolo 3 (bicicletta)." Poi vedo che mi sbaglio e che due macchine dovrebbero partire per prime e la bicicletta aspettare. Stavo chiedendo alla Chat GPT e mi ha risposto la stessa cosa, spiegando che due auto SONO GIA’ ENTRATE nel cerchio e la bicicletta sta per farlo.
Com’è? Sono cieco o c’è qualche errore logico nella mia comprensione?
PS: non mi fido Chat GPT è l’assoluto vero, ce lo dice spesso, ma a volte spesso potrebbe puntare su alcuni dettagli, di cui non ero a conoscenza, e quindi chiarisce le cose.
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di Puzzleheaded-Wave687
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In Old circles you needed to wait for the cars outside the circle to come in. In the new circles,the ones outside have a stop sign or a give way sign
Welcome to Greece!
Don’t bother overthinking about it. You just need to memorise all the answers only for the exam day.
then it doesn’t matter. the bigger and more aggressive it’s driver is, the higher priority it has.
Typically, the “coming from the right side takes priority” rule applies here, despite the fact that it’s a roundabout. The 2 cars are coming in from the right of the bike, so it must hand over priority and let them pass. It’s an extremely ideal scenario where everybody drives perfectly, which of course is way out of touch with reality, and as such that rule is rarely followed. In general, if there aren’t any signs that say otherwise, the standard is that vehicles coming from the right always have priority. (Except if it’s a train, duh)
In Greece roundabouts dont have special rules. So the right hand side priority still applies. The cars are on the right of the bicycle and no explicit signs for priority exist, so the rule says that the cars have priority.
Unless there is a stop sign the vehicle entering the circle always has priority, it makes no sense but it is what it is
You are not going crazy. For some reason, in Greece, vehicles inside the circle need to stop and give priority to vehicles that want to enter it.
Hello and welcome! In Greece, for some reason, the vehicles that enter the circle have priority over the ones that are already in. Unless of course the priority is defined by other factors, like stop signs or traffic lights.
This is one thing that I’ve noticed in Greece when I came back from Australia.
The roundabouts, are not 100% enforced. Meaning, if there is no STOP sign when you ENTER the roundabout, the one on the right has priority.
Fucking stupid if you ask me.
Right hand rule still applies on roundabouts without a Yield or Stop sign
In Greece roundabouts work the opposite way than it is in other countries. But you will notice that most roundabouts have stop signs to effectively give priority to the vehicles in the roundabout.
THANKS GUYS!
IT’S CLEAR NOW. AT LEAST UNDERSTOOD THE LOGIC.
Article 26 of [**Greek Highway Code**](https://www.ioas.gr/uploads/docs/2016/05/397.pdf) states:
>4. At intersections, priority is determined by appropriate signage.
5. **At intersections without such signage, the right of way belongs to the one coming from the right.** By exception:
a) Those traveling on motorways, national roads, and expressways have priority.
b) Those entering a road from dirt roads, paths, roadside properties,
parking areas, and fueling and service stations must yield the right of
way to those traveling on the road.
c) Those starting off or moving in reverse, where this is permitted, must yield the right of way.
d) Railway or tram vehicles have priority.
So, when there are no traffic signs, the vehicles entering the roundabout have priority. **Typically (almost always, in fact) in Greece, those entering a roundabout have a STOP or a Yield sign.**
Unless mention with an other sign, roundabouts are just rounds and the rule of the right side applies normally.
In Greece vehicles entering the roundabout have priority and all vehicles inside it must yield priority.
3, despite being a bicycle, is already in the roundabout and therefore must yield priority unless there is a traffic sign (usually a STOP sign), a traffic officer or a traffic light (very rare) indicating otherwise.
Our books haven’t changed since god knows when, this test is a joke. A lot of things don’t make sense, after you pass the test your driving teacher will teach you properly how signs work.
There are Greek drachmas (our old currency) mentioned in them for fining, which is before 2001.
Yeah, go to plateia karaiskaki and see the madness by your own eyes.