Perhaps the “body positivity” movement was a bad idea after all.
Awkward-Pen-8428 on
They’re not ideal but if the price can be reduced it’s a decent stop gap til we truly understand why some can’t control their nom noms.
ooh-sheet on
My husband has a private prescription for mounjaro, he still eats like crap, just less of it.
I eat healthily, my food alone for roughly a week is generally over £100, that includes plenty of fresh and frozen fruit and veg, chicken and fish, grains and salads. That’s one singular person in a household of 4. To replicate that for a larger household isn’t going to be feasible with the cost of living as it currently stands.
bobbzombie on
I wonder what the returns on investment are for GLPs for the NHS, per pound spent what is saved in medication and treatments down the line. I assume it’s negative at the moment but at what would it take for it to switch?
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Life_Sandwich_549 on
the UK government needs to subsidise fruit+veg in this country more to be dirt cheap, it would help motivate people to eat healthier than shovelling cheap bags of crisps and frozen dinners as it tastes good and is cheap
Cholas71 on
We want pharma to solve everything – reality check required.
Capt_Departure_1625 on
Glp-1’s are amazing.
You’d have to be certifiable to listen to the likes of whitty after Covid.
Sea_Lunch_3863 on
The UK is an obesogenic environment. That needs to change if we want to stop being a nation of fat bastards.
mpanase on
more people work sitting down, afterwork activites cost more than ever, bad food is cheaper than healthy food, …
there’s stuff you can do, dear government
it’s actually your job
mooninuranus on
I was at a Chris Whitty presentation on preventative medicine a couple of weeks ago and he basically said that most of the issues we face could be managed by public health policy.
Don’t smoke, don’t drink (too much), take exercise and watch your weight (is what he said). Pretty simple advice really.
Sunshinetrooper87 on
Mild grumble but the article mentions how France has kept obesity levels at 1990 levels, the time where we departed significantly from them but doesn’t explain how.
Now I need to go see what they have done with public health as the French like their food; their cream, cheese and wine.
StandardNerd92 on
“You’re too fat, lose some weight!”
“No, not like that!!!”
SMB75 on
Fat people get shamed, then they go on drugs and get shamed again.. No winning here. The drugs does help to loose weight, but one need to train and lean healthy habits to maintain it. The side effect is a risk yeah, but it better to be normal weight then obese so it is worth it for those that can afford it
Moist_Farmer3548 on
We need to understand that the line that separates obesity from overweight is on the right slope of the bell curve, and that BMI is based on firstly a shorter population and secondly a time when malnutrition was rife.
Mean-Dinner-8780 on
He says
> Really, is our answer to say ‘give up on public health’, which we know will work?
But do we know it will work? We’ve been trying to make that work for a long time without success.
And more generally “X alone will not solve Y” is a bad argument. Because there’s no need for us to do X alone. We can do it in combination with everything else.
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Perhaps the “body positivity” movement was a bad idea after all.
They’re not ideal but if the price can be reduced it’s a decent stop gap til we truly understand why some can’t control their nom noms.
My husband has a private prescription for mounjaro, he still eats like crap, just less of it.
I eat healthily, my food alone for roughly a week is generally over £100, that includes plenty of fresh and frozen fruit and veg, chicken and fish, grains and salads. That’s one singular person in a household of 4. To replicate that for a larger household isn’t going to be feasible with the cost of living as it currently stands.
I wonder what the returns on investment are for GLPs for the NHS, per pound spent what is saved in medication and treatments down the line. I assume it’s negative at the moment but at what would it take for it to switch?
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the UK government needs to subsidise fruit+veg in this country more to be dirt cheap, it would help motivate people to eat healthier than shovelling cheap bags of crisps and frozen dinners as it tastes good and is cheap
We want pharma to solve everything – reality check required.
Glp-1’s are amazing.
You’d have to be certifiable to listen to the likes of whitty after Covid.
The UK is an obesogenic environment. That needs to change if we want to stop being a nation of fat bastards.
more people work sitting down, afterwork activites cost more than ever, bad food is cheaper than healthy food, …
there’s stuff you can do, dear government
it’s actually your job
I was at a Chris Whitty presentation on preventative medicine a couple of weeks ago and he basically said that most of the issues we face could be managed by public health policy.
Don’t smoke, don’t drink (too much), take exercise and watch your weight (is what he said). Pretty simple advice really.
Mild grumble but the article mentions how France has kept obesity levels at 1990 levels, the time where we departed significantly from them but doesn’t explain how.
Now I need to go see what they have done with public health as the French like their food; their cream, cheese and wine.
“You’re too fat, lose some weight!”
“No, not like that!!!”
Fat people get shamed, then they go on drugs and get shamed again.. No winning here. The drugs does help to loose weight, but one need to train and lean healthy habits to maintain it. The side effect is a risk yeah, but it better to be normal weight then obese so it is worth it for those that can afford it
We need to understand that the line that separates obesity from overweight is on the right slope of the bell curve, and that BMI is based on firstly a shorter population and secondly a time when malnutrition was rife.
He says
> Really, is our answer to say ‘give up on public health’, which we know will work?
But do we know it will work? We’ve been trying to make that work for a long time without success.
And more generally “X alone will not solve Y” is a bad argument. Because there’s no need for us to do X alone. We can do it in combination with everything else.