This fact has always stuck with me about how different the population entering prison are from the ordinary population:
>Overall, four out of five prisoners (80 per cent) left school before their Leaving Cert, more than half (52 per cent) left before their Junior Cert, and just over a quarter (26 per cent) never attended secondary school. These rates are multiples of those in the wider population, where, for example, 90 per of students now complete their Leaving Certificate
These by and large aren’t people who have the same incentives as the rest of us. They have nothing to lose and nothing to fear from the state – nor could the state really make them fear without giving them something to lose.
AtraVenator on
More like the “the idle hands are the devil’s workshop”.
Give folks jobs not dole.
FlamingBaconCake on
I’ve tried saying similar stuff in here that it forces people into lives of crime because they genuinely feels and believe they’ve no other option but have been demonized in here for saying so.
I’m not saying I’m okay with it. I’m saying to pretend inequality/poverty/harsh upbringing doesn’t result in this is to pretend it isn’t happening, we can’t change anything until we accept it.
Our current system and the way our country is run incentivizes this.
ScientificGorilla on
People go to prison in this country?
WoahGoHandy on
why do we listen to anything the Irish Penal Reform Trust say? why does it warrant a news item from our national broadcaster. they’re ridiculously biased.
they want to broaden the youth diversion programme ages from 18 to 24! think of all the untouchable yup boys who know they can do waht they want and imagine them doing it for another 6 years. madness.
mayrice on
This reminds me of that “in other news, water is wet” meme
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This fact has always stuck with me about how different the population entering prison are from the ordinary population:
>Overall, four out of five prisoners (80 per cent) left school before their Leaving Cert, more than half (52 per cent) left before their Junior Cert, and just over a quarter (26 per cent) never attended secondary school. These rates are multiples of those in the wider population, where, for example, 90 per of students now complete their Leaving Certificate
These by and large aren’t people who have the same incentives as the rest of us. They have nothing to lose and nothing to fear from the state – nor could the state really make them fear without giving them something to lose.
More like the “the idle hands are the devil’s workshop”.
Give folks jobs not dole.
I’ve tried saying similar stuff in here that it forces people into lives of crime because they genuinely feels and believe they’ve no other option but have been demonized in here for saying so.
I’m not saying I’m okay with it. I’m saying to pretend inequality/poverty/harsh upbringing doesn’t result in this is to pretend it isn’t happening, we can’t change anything until we accept it.
Our current system and the way our country is run incentivizes this.
People go to prison in this country?
why do we listen to anything the Irish Penal Reform Trust say? why does it warrant a news item from our national broadcaster. they’re ridiculously biased.
they want to broaden the youth diversion programme ages from 18 to 24! think of all the untouchable yup boys who know they can do waht they want and imagine them doing it for another 6 years. madness.
This reminds me of that “in other news, water is wet” meme